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	<title>Comments on: Congressional Bill to Ban State Government Photo-ID Requirements for Voting at Polls</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know that, to rent a post office box, one now has to show two types of ID, one of which must be photo ID?

The USPS has a long list of IDs that are NOT acceptable.  These include birth certificates and Social Security cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that, to rent a post office box, one now has to show two types of ID, one of which must be photo ID?</p>
<p>The USPS has a long list of IDs that are NOT acceptable.  These include birth certificates and Social Security cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbobjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbobjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert: &quot;States that require government ID have to dispense the ID to the poor for no cost.&quot;

Some courts go farther than that. They felt that getting a birth certificate (which costs money and can take months from some states) also imposes a poll-tax like burden. 

WILL: &quot;I HAVE TO SHOW ID TO WRITE A CHECK WHY NOT TO VOTE.&quot;

Because check fraud gives you a very direct tangible benefit--which could be thousands of dollars. Voter fraud really doesn&#039;t. It&#039;s extremely difficult to pull off in any significant way, and it&#039;s a lot of work to achieve little. (Think about it: in a small election, the polling places are all clustered together, in a big election you just end up driving around a lot.)

Essentially, it&#039;s the equivalent of counterfeiting pennies--a lot of work with no return. For god sakes, over time, American elections average to about 30-40% participation. 60% of real Americans can&#039;t bother voting, why would fake people vote? It would be a lot cheaper and less time consuming to just get the people who normally don&#039;t vote to vote, or change the minds of the habitual voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: &#8220;States that require government ID have to dispense the ID to the poor for no cost.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some courts go farther than that. They felt that getting a birth certificate (which costs money and can take months from some states) also imposes a poll-tax like burden. </p>
<p>WILL: &#8220;I HAVE TO SHOW ID TO WRITE A CHECK WHY NOT TO VOTE.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because check fraud gives you a very direct tangible benefit&#8211;which could be thousands of dollars. Voter fraud really doesn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s extremely difficult to pull off in any significant way, and it&#8217;s a lot of work to achieve little. (Think about it: in a small election, the polling places are all clustered together, in a big election you just end up driving around a lot.)</p>
<p>Essentially, it&#8217;s the equivalent of counterfeiting pennies&#8211;a lot of work with no return. For god sakes, over time, American elections average to about 30-40% participation. 60% of real Americans can&#8217;t bother voting, why would fake people vote? It would be a lot cheaper and less time consuming to just get the people who normally don&#8217;t vote to vote, or change the minds of the habitual voters.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/11/01/congressional-bill-to-ban-state-government-photo-id-requirements-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-150558</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The elephant in the room is vote fraud. Without photo ID requirements, voting early and often is a great deal easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The elephant in the room is vote fraud. Without photo ID requirements, voting early and often is a great deal easier.</p>
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		<title>By: WILL</title>
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		<dc:creator>WILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HAVE TO SHOW ID TO WRITE A CHECK WHY NOT TO VOTE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HAVE TO SHOW ID TO WRITE A CHECK WHY NOT TO VOTE.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>States that require government ID have to dispense the ID to the poor for no cost. Otherwise, it is a poll tax and that has already been declared unconstitutional.

Being able to drive should not be a requirement to vote.

I don&#039;t know about the homeless voting. If they don&#039;t have an address, they don&#039;t reside within any voting district (they could take public transportation and &#039;reside&#039; within many voting districts). How do they prove they reside within a voting district?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States that require government ID have to dispense the ID to the poor for no cost. Otherwise, it is a poll tax and that has already been declared unconstitutional.</p>
<p>Being able to drive should not be a requirement to vote.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the homeless voting. If they don&#8217;t have an address, they don&#8217;t reside within any voting district (they could take public transportation and &#8216;reside&#8217; within many voting districts). How do they prove they reside within a voting district?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a class of people who don&#039;t have government photo ID.  They tend to be very poor; they don&#039;t fly; they don&#039;t rent videos; some of them are homeless and homeless people have a big problem with losing their possessions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a class of people who don&#8217;t have government photo ID.  They tend to be very poor; they don&#8217;t fly; they don&#8217;t rent videos; some of them are homeless and homeless people have a big problem with losing their possessions.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl W. Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl W. Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why some people don&#039;t want voters to prove that they are who they say they are?!? Could it be that they don&#039;t want you to have to prove your identity, so that you can vote multiple times at multiple locations?
Alabama requires Identification, BUT, you can use a Power Bill to prove your identity. That only proves an address, not an identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why some people don&#8217;t want voters to prove that they are who they say they are?!? Could it be that they don&#8217;t want you to have to prove your identity, so that you can vote multiple times at multiple locations?<br />
Alabama requires Identification, BUT, you can use a Power Bill to prove your identity. That only proves an address, not an identity.</p>
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