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	<title>Comments on: U.S. Supreme Court Mostly Upholds Indiana Government Photo ID Law for Voting at Polls</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10, Jim R.: &lt;em&gt;the legislature ordered the licensing bureau to issue photo IDs to any citizen over the age of 18 for free.&lt;/em&gt;

To get the &quot;free&quot; photo ID you have to produce a birth certificate, passport, etc. -- all of which cost money. This was recognized in Souter&#039;s dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10, Jim R.: <em>the legislature ordered the licensing bureau to issue photo IDs to any citizen over the age of 18 for free.</em></p>
<p>To get the &#8220;free&#8221; photo ID you have to produce a birth certificate, passport, etc. &#8212; all of which cost money. This was recognized in Souter&#8217;s dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: Demo Rep</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-347425</link>
		<dc:creator>Demo Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More and more felonies with SERIOUS punishment for ALL election law violations ??? -- i.e. LIFE in jail -- i.e. to make election law violations as serious as treason, murder, etc.  -- to discourage the ANTI-Democracy devil morons from Hell -- i.e. the old time / New Age party hack ballot box stuffers and vote stealers.

Illegal persons claiming to be Electors
Illegal voting - by any illegal persons
Illegal counting of legal ballots,
etc.

ALL VERY MAJOR FELONIES ---

Otherwise -- see the ruins of many wrecked so-called *civilizations*.

Are the top communist Donkeys and the top fascist Elephants trying to take PERMANENT control of the U.S.A. regime by any means possible ??? Duh.

Nothing new in world history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More and more felonies with SERIOUS punishment for ALL election law violations ??? &#8212; i.e. LIFE in jail &#8212; i.e. to make election law violations as serious as treason, murder, etc.  &#8212; to discourage the ANTI-Democracy devil morons from Hell &#8212; i.e. the old time / New Age party hack ballot box stuffers and vote stealers.</p>
<p>Illegal persons claiming to be Electors<br />
Illegal voting &#8211; by any illegal persons<br />
Illegal counting of legal ballots,<br />
etc.</p>
<p>ALL VERY MAJOR FELONIES &#8212;</p>
<p>Otherwise &#8212; see the ruins of many wrecked so-called *civilizations*.</p>
<p>Are the top communist Donkeys and the top fascist Elephants trying to take PERMANENT control of the U.S.A. regime by any means possible ??? Duh.</p>
<p>Nothing new in world history.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Prindle</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-347207</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Prindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pro-Democratic groups are not going to just pack up their toys and go home. They&#039;re not going to stop trying to block other parties&#039; and groups&#039; petitioning efforts. This decision gives them rhetorical support -- and possibly legal support -- in their efforts to do so, especially where the judges evaluating petitions are already on their side.

The problem with efforts to crack down on &quot;voter fraud&quot; is that Republicans commit fraud by trying to suppress the votes of the same demographic groups that Democrats try to coerce. So cracking down on one type of fraud bolsters the other. (There is also a fine line between fraud and sloppiness, on both sides.)

You would think libertarians would not be happy about a law that requires citizens to have all their papers in order before participating in a basic act of citizenship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pro-Democratic groups are not going to just pack up their toys and go home. They&#8217;re not going to stop trying to block other parties&#8217; and groups&#8217; petitioning efforts. This decision gives them rhetorical support &#8212; and possibly legal support &#8212; in their efforts to do so, especially where the judges evaluating petitions are already on their side.</p>
<p>The problem with efforts to crack down on &#8220;voter fraud&#8221; is that Republicans commit fraud by trying to suppress the votes of the same demographic groups that Democrats try to coerce. So cracking down on one type of fraud bolsters the other. (There is also a fine line between fraud and sloppiness, on both sides.)</p>
<p>You would think libertarians would not be happy about a law that requires citizens to have all their papers in order before participating in a basic act of citizenship.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-347152</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan Jose de Puerto Rico,

The problem with voter IDs is that Democrats can no longer engage in voter fraud, the kind they&#039;ve been doing in California, Missouri, Illinois, South Florida and other States for years.  That&#039;s why there&#039;s so much fuss.  

You don&#039;t see Libertarians or Republicans complaining about the Supreme Court ruling.  Funny, the only ones complaining are the Democrat Party USA.

Wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan Jose de Puerto Rico,</p>
<p>The problem with voter IDs is that Democrats can no longer engage in voter fraud, the kind they&#8217;ve been doing in California, Missouri, Illinois, South Florida and other States for years.  That&#8217;s why there&#8217;s so much fuss.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t see Libertarians or Republicans complaining about the Supreme Court ruling.  Funny, the only ones complaining are the Democrat Party USA.</p>
<p>Wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-347150</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was working in extreme southern California in 2004, I witnessed massive voter fraud for the Democrats.  They were unbelievably bold and audacious in their efforts.  They&#039;d threaten illegal immigrants by telling them they needed to register to vote and mark the Democrat box, or risk being reported into local Border Patrol authorities.  This was particularly rampant in San Diego, Riverside, San Bernadino and Imperial Counties on the Border.

Another Dem trick is they&#039;d set up at Wal-Marts on the border (Calexico and El Centro), and register visiting Mexican nationals to vote.  (Mexicans who have a one-day pass card have mailing boxes in Calexico and often vote in US elections by mail.)  

And yet another trick, they&#039;d register US citizens to vote at these Wal-Marts, but they&#039;d already have the Dem box filled in with a magic marker.  So, it was impossible to register as anything but a Democrat.  I knew people who tried to register Republican or Libertarian, and the Dem registrars literally ripped up the card in their faces and threw it in the trash.  I also personally witnessed this on the local community college campus in El Centro.

California Democrats are brutal.  They play rough.  Hopefully, this Supreme Court ruling will cut down on the massive voter fraud they&#039;ve been engaging in for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was working in extreme southern California in 2004, I witnessed massive voter fraud for the Democrats.  They were unbelievably bold and audacious in their efforts.  They&#8217;d threaten illegal immigrants by telling them they needed to register to vote and mark the Democrat box, or risk being reported into local Border Patrol authorities.  This was particularly rampant in San Diego, Riverside, San Bernadino and Imperial Counties on the Border.</p>
<p>Another Dem trick is they&#8217;d set up at Wal-Marts on the border (Calexico and El Centro), and register visiting Mexican nationals to vote.  (Mexicans who have a one-day pass card have mailing boxes in Calexico and often vote in US elections by mail.)  </p>
<p>And yet another trick, they&#8217;d register US citizens to vote at these Wal-Marts, but they&#8217;d already have the Dem box filled in with a magic marker.  So, it was impossible to register as anything but a Democrat.  I knew people who tried to register Republican or Libertarian, and the Dem registrars literally ripped up the card in their faces and threw it in the trash.  I also personally witnessed this on the local community college campus in El Centro.</p>
<p>California Democrats are brutal.  They play rough.  Hopefully, this Supreme Court ruling will cut down on the massive voter fraud they&#8217;ve been engaging in for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-347146</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is simply the greatest news for libertarians of the year.  It is a huge win for libertarian petitioners nationwide.  We get pummelled on a daily basis by leftist scumbag petitioners who try to block us from gathering signatures for libertarian candidates and causes.  Now they&#039;ve suffered a serious set-back.  Bet we&#039;ll be seeing much less of the ACORN types trying to stop us now on the petitioning trail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simply the greatest news for libertarians of the year.  It is a huge win for libertarian petitioners nationwide.  We get pummelled on a daily basis by leftist scumbag petitioners who try to block us from gathering signatures for libertarian candidates and causes.  Now they&#8217;ve suffered a serious set-back.  Bet we&#8217;ll be seeing much less of the ACORN types trying to stop us now on the petitioning trail.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-346558</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many poor people do not have government photo ID.  That&#039;s why there are check-cashing services in urban areas that do not require the customer to show a government photo ID.  These check-cashing places always take a substantial cut of the check that they have just cashed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many poor people do not have government photo ID.  That&#8217;s why there are check-cashing services in urban areas that do not require the customer to show a government photo ID.  These check-cashing places always take a substantial cut of the check that they have just cashed.</p>
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		<title>By: Demo Rep</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-346536</link>
		<dc:creator>Demo Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-21.pdf

another link to the opinions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-21.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-21.pdf</a></p>
<p>another link to the opinions</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/04/28/us-supreme-court-mostly-upholds-indiana-government-photo-id-law-for-voting-at-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-346119</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 and #8  Henry Dubb, you are correct - perhaps you read it in the actual decision, while Bob Richard was making it up.  While most people will use their drivers license, which they pay a fee for, the legislature ordered the licensing bureau to issue photo IDs to any citizen over the age of 18 for free.  There are also exceptions for people in nursing homes and those who refuse to be photographed due to religious reasons.  Those who lose their ID or whose dog ate it thinking it was their homework will be able to vote a provisional ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 and #8  Henry Dubb, you are correct &#8211; perhaps you read it in the actual decision, while Bob Richard was making it up.  While most people will use their drivers license, which they pay a fee for, the legislature ordered the licensing bureau to issue photo IDs to any citizen over the age of 18 for free.  There are also exceptions for people in nursing homes and those who refuse to be photographed due to religious reasons.  Those who lose their ID or whose dog ate it thinking it was their homework will be able to vote a provisional ballot.</p>
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		<title>By: bob wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HAVE TO SHOW ID TO CASH A CHECK SO WHATS SO BAD ABOUT IT FOR VOTING?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HAVE TO SHOW ID TO CASH A CHECK SO WHATS SO BAD ABOUT IT FOR VOTING?</p>
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