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	<title>Comments on: C-SPAN will Cover Important Parts of Libertarian Convention Live</title>
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		<title>By: Alistaire Fairfax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistaire Fairfax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That convention was a television gem. Hip hop music from the adjacent room flooded the speeches, and the heads of delegation were hilarious. Most of these people looked like they came directly from the bowling alley. Many wore t-shirts, and I have never seen so much denim at a &#039;convention.&#039; Highlight of the day: the lack of a projector requires cspan to place the camcorder up to a computer screen to show voting. The result: a blurry, shaky, and blinking video feed with indecipherable names/numbers. I laughed for hours and only regret not taping it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That convention was a television gem. Hip hop music from the adjacent room flooded the speeches, and the heads of delegation were hilarious. Most of these people looked like they came directly from the bowling alley. Many wore t-shirts, and I have never seen so much denim at a &#8216;convention.&#8217; Highlight of the day: the lack of a projector requires cspan to place the camcorder up to a computer screen to show voting. The result: a blurry, shaky, and blinking video feed with indecipherable names/numbers. I laughed for hours and only regret not taping it.</p>
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		<title>By: Demo Rep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demo Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 03:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The regime -
Unequal ballot access laws
Minority rule gerrymanders - half the votes in half the gerrymander districts is about 25 percent minority rule.
Plurality primary nominations - about 10 States with top 2 runoff primaries
Plurality winners.

Result - NONSTOP gerrymander monarchy / oligarchy in ALL States since 1776 and in the Fed regime since 1789 -- regardless of ALL of the 232 years of brainwashing by the regime (via the rotted public schools) and the brain dead MORON media that the U.S.A. is any way, shape or form as being *democratic*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The regime -<br />
Unequal ballot access laws<br />
Minority rule gerrymanders &#8211; half the votes in half the gerrymander districts is about 25 percent minority rule.<br />
Plurality primary nominations &#8211; about 10 States with top 2 runoff primaries<br />
Plurality winners.</p>
<p>Result &#8211; NONSTOP gerrymander monarchy / oligarchy in ALL States since 1776 and in the Fed regime since 1789 &#8212; regardless of ALL of the 232 years of brainwashing by the regime (via the rotted public schools) and the brain dead MORON media that the U.S.A. is any way, shape or form as being *democratic*.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Frank Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. Frank Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much happy talk about how this defector or that defector will raise the public prestige of the Libertarian Party, or swing the election between the duopoly parties, or even Libertarian candidates down the ticket elected is mostly just that happy talk cheer leading chat. 

Regular readers to BAN know the deeply entrenched barriers to dissident party success in law and custom. Whoever is nominated by the LP will have NO significant effect on the core of political power. The defeat of Dems by Reps or vice-versa changes nothing but the dominant propaganda themes in the main stream media - their happy talk. 

The importance of the LP nominee is to the credibility of the LP with its own &quot;base&quot;. I am highly suspicious of the candidates with establishments pedigrees. I am not convinced neither Barr, nor Gravel nor Root regard the LP as anything but a disposable vehicle for their own ambitions - which are to raise their clout within the legally entrenched parties. 

In the interest of disclosure, I am a founding member of the LP. I chaired the Bylaws committee at the Denver Convention in 1972 and Chair emeritus of the Oklahoma Libertarian Party which I co-founded in 1972. 

Discounting Barr, who told me personally he would not commit to Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and abolition of the Federal Reserve, and Gravel, and Root, I have no favorite candidate in this race. Or, to put it most bluntly - anybody but the tree named above will do. 

It&#039;s the message not the messenger that has been the core of the Libertarian strategy from its founding. 

At the same time I am critical of the tactics employed by LP administrations to advance that strategy. They have all failed to fully grasp what BAN and Richard Winger has so throughly documented for them. It&#039;s the damn electoral system, stupid! The LP has failed to present and aggressive agenda attacking the rigging of American elections nor have they integrated the depth of the corruption of the electoral system as documented by Bev Harris at Blackboxvoting.com. 

The LP needs a tougher, more radical agenda and tactics  which will make its candidates real competitors with people who realize that their votes are not intended to count in this electoral system - they can vote either way they want, but as Paul Simon said, &quot;you lose.&quot; 

Why would the LP want to nominate anyone without an excellent libertarian resume anyway? None of the answers to that question advance the brand of the LP as a &quot;Party of Principle.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much happy talk about how this defector or that defector will raise the public prestige of the Libertarian Party, or swing the election between the duopoly parties, or even Libertarian candidates down the ticket elected is mostly just that happy talk cheer leading chat. </p>
<p>Regular readers to BAN know the deeply entrenched barriers to dissident party success in law and custom. Whoever is nominated by the LP will have NO significant effect on the core of political power. The defeat of Dems by Reps or vice-versa changes nothing but the dominant propaganda themes in the main stream media &#8211; their happy talk. </p>
<p>The importance of the LP nominee is to the credibility of the LP with its own &#8220;base&#8221;. I am highly suspicious of the candidates with establishments pedigrees. I am not convinced neither Barr, nor Gravel nor Root regard the LP as anything but a disposable vehicle for their own ambitions &#8211; which are to raise their clout within the legally entrenched parties. </p>
<p>In the interest of disclosure, I am a founding member of the LP. I chaired the Bylaws committee at the Denver Convention in 1972 and Chair emeritus of the Oklahoma Libertarian Party which I co-founded in 1972. </p>
<p>Discounting Barr, who told me personally he would not commit to Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and abolition of the Federal Reserve, and Gravel, and Root, I have no favorite candidate in this race. Or, to put it most bluntly &#8211; anybody but the tree named above will do. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the message not the messenger that has been the core of the Libertarian strategy from its founding. </p>
<p>At the same time I am critical of the tactics employed by LP administrations to advance that strategy. They have all failed to fully grasp what BAN and Richard Winger has so throughly documented for them. It&#8217;s the damn electoral system, stupid! The LP has failed to present and aggressive agenda attacking the rigging of American elections nor have they integrated the depth of the corruption of the electoral system as documented by Bev Harris at Blackboxvoting.com. </p>
<p>The LP needs a tougher, more radical agenda and tactics  which will make its candidates real competitors with people who realize that their votes are not intended to count in this electoral system &#8211; they can vote either way they want, but as Paul Simon said, &#8220;you lose.&#8221; </p>
<p>Why would the LP want to nominate anyone without an excellent libertarian resume anyway? None of the answers to that question advance the brand of the LP as a &#8220;Party of Principle.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Demo Rep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demo Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 17:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the convention TV ratings be higher or lower than the Nov. 2008 Prez percentage for each party ???

Stay tuned.</description>
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<p>Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack is back</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack is back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, second your well wishes for the Libertarians.

The Reform Party hasn&#039;t really ended.  It&#039;s members grew and learned.  They&#039;ve moved on to either the Green, Libertarian, Constitution, or Independence parties.   

More experienced, wiser politically, better behaved.

Knowing pragmatic third party political alliances are an absolute must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, second your well wishes for the Libertarians.</p>
<p>The Reform Party hasn&#8217;t really ended.  It&#8217;s members grew and learned.  They&#8217;ve moved on to either the Green, Libertarian, Constitution, or Independence parties.   </p>
<p>More experienced, wiser politically, better behaved.</p>
<p>Knowing pragmatic third party political alliances are an absolute must.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, in order for there to be peace within both the radical Libertarians and reform Libertarians, the ideal ticket would be Barr/Ruwal. The LP has every right in the world to be afraid of another possible Buchanan Brigade takeover destroyed the Reform Party. But I&#039;m sure the LP won&#039;t allow anyone or anything to destroy the party. Make the right choice Libertarians and good luck at the convention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, in order for there to be peace within both the radical Libertarians and reform Libertarians, the ideal ticket would be Barr/Ruwal. The LP has every right in the world to be afraid of another possible Buchanan Brigade takeover destroyed the Reform Party. But I&#8217;m sure the LP won&#8217;t allow anyone or anything to destroy the party. Make the right choice Libertarians and good luck at the convention!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been surprising amounts of news coverage of the LP convention.
Even Nasty Propaganda Radio (NPR) had a story this morning (Friday) that was balanced and non-sneering.
Astonishing.
The Atlanta Communistution has run some stories on Bob Barr and his candidacy, even placing his announcement news conference on the front page; naturally most of the coverage is negative, but that the AJC even mentions Barr and the Libertarian Party is pretty unusual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been surprising amounts of news coverage of the LP convention.<br />
Even Nasty Propaganda Radio (NPR) had a story this morning (Friday) that was balanced and non-sneering.<br />
Astonishing.<br />
The Atlanta Communistution has run some stories on Bob Barr and his candidacy, even placing his announcement news conference on the front page; naturally most of the coverage is negative, but that the AJC even mentions Barr and the Libertarian Party is pretty unusual.</p>
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		<title>By: BOB WAYNE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOB WAYNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MY CHOICE FOR THE LP TICKET IN 2008 BARR FOR PRESIDENT AND RICHARD WINGER FOR VICE PRESIDENT</description>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deciding which is the biggest party is ambiguous.  The Constitution Party has more registered members, but the Green Party has more office-holders in office.  In 2006, Greens running for Congress got more votes than Constitution Party nominees running for Congress.  But in 2004 the Constitution Party got more votes for president than the Green Party did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deciding which is the biggest party is ambiguous.  The Constitution Party has more registered members, but the Green Party has more office-holders in office.  In 2006, Greens running for Congress got more votes than Constitution Party nominees running for Congress.  But in 2004 the Constitution Party got more votes for president than the Green Party did.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gillis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Gillis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news!

Thank You for the report.

CSPAN actually going to give the convention that much coverage.

Barr/Gravel is the strongest libertarian ticket.  Meaning the one most likely to get media coverage.
Media coverage translates into $$$.  That in turn grows the third party movement.

Bob Barr has had a disciplined focused message since announcing.  Not as strong as Ron Paul as calling for cutting $1 Trillion taxpayer wasted money on foreign military misadventure...Calling for bringing America troops home from Europe and Asia.

The Green Party has made a reasonable claim to be the largest third party.   Whether it&#039;s the Libertarians, or the Greens the key point is that both are positive alternatives that continue to grow.

Cynthia Mckinney is starting to do a little media now.  The more she does, the more the greens grow.  Especially if she forms 1) Nader alliance on one ticket or, 2 ) picks a well know national politician as her Vice President.   Say Jesse Ventura, Kinky Friedmann, Cecial Angus, or Lowell Weichert...to name a few common sense candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news!</p>
<p>Thank You for the report.</p>
<p>CSPAN actually going to give the convention that much coverage.</p>
<p>Barr/Gravel is the strongest libertarian ticket.  Meaning the one most likely to get media coverage.<br />
Media coverage translates into $$$.  That in turn grows the third party movement.</p>
<p>Bob Barr has had a disciplined focused message since announcing.  Not as strong as Ron Paul as calling for cutting $1 Trillion taxpayer wasted money on foreign military misadventure&#8230;Calling for bringing America troops home from Europe and Asia.</p>
<p>The Green Party has made a reasonable claim to be the largest third party.   Whether it&#8217;s the Libertarians, or the Greens the key point is that both are positive alternatives that continue to grow.</p>
<p>Cynthia Mckinney is starting to do a little media now.  The more she does, the more the greens grow.  Especially if she forms 1) Nader alliance on one ticket or, 2 ) picks a well know national politician as her Vice President.   Say Jesse Ventura, Kinky Friedmann, Cecial Angus, or Lowell Weichert&#8230;to name a few common sense candidates.</p>
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