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Democratic Rules Committee Gives Florida and Michigan Each Half a Delegation

Published on May 31, 2008, by in General.

The Rules Committee of the Democratic Party has unanimously agreed to give Florida Democrats half their delegation, and has also agreed to give Michigan Democrats half as well. All individuals from those two states will be seated, each with a half-vote. The Florida apportionment of delegates matches the results of the Florida presidential primary. The Michigan apportionment does not match the results of the Michigan Democratic primary, since Barack Obama’s name was not on the Michigan Democratic ballot. Instead, Obama get 59 Michigan half-delegates, and Hillary Clinton gets 69 Michigan half-delegates. Some of the Clinton supporters are still unhappy about today’s compromise and may ask for a revision from the national Credentials Committee.

15 Responses

  1. Bob

    Hillary reserves the right to appeal and carry the drama all the way to Denver!

    Part of me wants her to continue making a fool of herself; the other part wants her to just go away!

    Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!

    http://klintons.com

  2. Jonathan

    I feel bad for Obama, if there was a revote in michigan and his name would actually be on it, Obama would win hands down. The proof is Michigan favors Nader at 10% Michigan has the largest Moslem and Arab populations which this gropu favors Obama nationswide.

  3. Laine

    As far as I am concerned both of Obama and Clinton can continue their piss fest. I only hope the rank and file people of our country realize what a farce of democracy that the Democrats are.

  4. Demo Rep

    How many LAWLESS violations of the so-called Dem Party *Rules* ???

    Will the Supremes be disturbed during their summer vacation – with last second cases / appeals ???

  5. Derek

    So wait, does Clinton want to bring up a claim that Obama’s 59 half-delegates should be Uncommitted or I’m I just lost?

  6. tim keller

    So why isn’t anyone furious with the Michigan and Florida power brokers who thought they could invent their own rules about how their state voters would weigh in? I’d promote a 10 year suspension of any state or national authority for that few dozen state officials? Don’t we have national kindergardens that teach “no cuts” for 5 and 6 years old waiting in line? How about when they’re retarded 50 and 60 year olds?

  7. Mark

    DNC says: (before primaries happen) Florida, Michigan don’t hold you primaries on those dates; if you do we won’t count your votes.

    FL, MI respond: “(*&%^ you DNC we don’t care about the rules”

    DNC: okay I guess your votes don’t count, you knew the rules, we warned you, and you still choose to hold your elections, you picked your own fate.

    Hillary: DNC why arn’t you counting all those votes? All those people that voted for the one choice left on the ballet need to be heard!

  8. Debbie

    Our constitutional right to vote should take precedence over technicalities. Every vote should count. How is denying votes any less UNLAWFUL than a premature election? I say slap MI and FL on the wrist, tell them never to do it again, grant acceptance of all votes and delegates and be done with it. Otherwise it looks as though the Dem. Rules Comm. wants Obama to win. Crooked politics indeed!

  9. Tom Yager

    Actually, the DNC’s standard penalty for cutting in line is 50% of the delegation, which is the same as the RNC’s. The RNC reduced the delegations of all states who jumped in line (including NH and SC) by 50%, and it didn’t cause a problem.

    The DNC chose to go nuclear on FL and MI, and only these two states. Had the DNC used their standard penalty instead of trying to pander to IA and NH, the primaries could have proceeded in FL and MI, and there would have been no arguments against their legitimacy in the popular vote totals. There probably would have been higher Democratic turnout in these states (they are among the few in which Democratic turnout was less than Republican turnout).

    Clinton still probably would have won both states, but Obama and Edwards would have gotten some votes in MI as well. Obama would have gained delegates based on the votes that he actually got in MI, instead of an arbitrary assignment based on getting all votes for “uncommitted” plus some of Clinton’s votes.

  10. No sympathy for Obama. He took his name off with the full intention of voter disenfranchisement.

    In order for Obama to get his delegates, they took votes from Hillary and gave them to Obama, used exit polls to over rule the popular vote, included write ins that could not be verified, and hypothesized how non voters would have voted.

    Now, if I was a Republican hack, I would have my ad writers at work.

  11. I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLEMENT THE PROFESSIONAL WAY THE DMC HANDLED A NO WIN SITUATION. THIS IS THE 1ST YEAR I HAVE FOLLOWED AN ELECTION THIS CLOSELY. I FELT YESTERDAY THAT I HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE THERE WITH YOU AND HELP. I KNOW THAT EVERYONE (except one) DID A GREAT JOB ON A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED AND VERY PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN AND A DEMOCRAT! I WATHCHED THE WHOLE HEARING ON CSPAN. I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO PICK ONLY ONE TO PRAISE, BUT I THINK DONNA BRAZIL COMMENTS ABOUT HER MOTHER REALLY SAID IT ALL.(CHEATING)

  12. I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLEMENT THE PROFESSIONAL WAY THE DMC HANDLED A NO WIN SITUATION. THIS IS THE 1ST YEAR I HAVE FOLLOWED AN ELECTION THIS CLOSELY. I FELT YESTERDAY THAT I HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE THERE WITH YOU AND HELP. I KNOW THAT EVERYONE (except one) DID A GREAT JOB ON A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED AND VERY PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN AND A DEMOCRAT! I WATHCHED THE WHOLE HEARING ON CSPAN. I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO PICK ONLY ONE TO PRAISE, BUT I THINK DONNA BRAZIL COMMENTS ABOUT HER MOTHER REALLY SAID IT ALL.(CHEATING) I SEE DONNA ON CNN AND SEE HAS BEEN A GREAT LOOK INTO THE WHOLE COMMITTEE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE SO MUCH TIME AND THOUGHTS TO THIS PROCESS.

  13. jacksmith

    DON’T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!

    IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!

    Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn’t it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(

    You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children’s suffering.

    With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.

    The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton’s do very well.

    Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

    Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party’s back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.

    As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.

    Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.

    If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

    You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don’t let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.

    And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.

    The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

    The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

    Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)

    “This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)

    Sincerely

    jacksmith… Working Class :-)

    p.s. Cynthia Ruccia – I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”

  14. Cindy

    Democratic Party….no, this is the new Marxist Party. If you can’t compete, you cheat.
    Memo from Obama:
    My friend, Donna Brazille, pushed to institute the complete delegate sanction this year; it has been 50 %, like the Republicans. And, to make sure that Hillary Clinton doesn’t get anything, we, the good ole boys club,(Obama,Richardson,Edwards), will conspire and “remove” our names. We can’t win in Michigan, but this will make us look better in Iowa. Oh, if that doesn’t work, we’ll have our friends at the Rules and By-Laws Committee, force our will by allowing write-ins, though none of us signed to be a write-in. And, we’ll have someone interpret the “intentions” of the voter, by claiming that exit-polls are the will of the voter.
    Hey, we’ll have our friends at the Michigan Democratic Party come up with a formula that takes away from Hillary. This is our strategy, all please insure that you comply with the NEW Marxist, oh I mean, Democratic Party Rules…
    Signed Your Dictator, Barack Obama

  15. Mark

    jacksmith, do you have any kind of evidence that you can point us to, to support your claims? This is the first I’ve heard of large scale “vote fixing”, and if true it seems like a major issue… of course on the face of it it also sounds like a classic conspiracy theory type argument. Give us a link to some facts so we can see your truth that the major media outlets have ignored.

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