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	<title>Comments on: Illinois Removes 4 Green Party Congressional Nominees from November Ballot</title>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/09/illinois-removes-4-green-party-congressional-nominees-from-november-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-404247</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illinois law provides that the party candidates are nominated by primaries open to voters who choose to vote in a particular party&#039;s primary.  That is the authority to nominate is vested in the Green Party voters and not the Green Party &quot;members&quot;.

Illinois law also provides a method of filling nomination vacancies.  This is based on election of local party officials at the primary.  When these party officials fill vacancies, their voting is weighted based on the number of primary voters in the area they represent.  In effect, vacancies can be filled by a indirect process akin to a convention where the delegates are selected by party voters.

This does not preclude or interfere with a separate membership-based organization acting by consensus or otherwise, from recruiting, supporting, or funding favored candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illinois law provides that the party candidates are nominated by primaries open to voters who choose to vote in a particular party&#8217;s primary.  That is the authority to nominate is vested in the Green Party voters and not the Green Party &#8220;members&#8221;.</p>
<p>Illinois law also provides a method of filling nomination vacancies.  This is based on election of local party officials at the primary.  When these party officials fill vacancies, their voting is weighted based on the number of primary voters in the area they represent.  In effect, vacancies can be filled by a indirect process akin to a convention where the delegates are selected by party voters.</p>
<p>This does not preclude or interfere with a separate membership-based organization acting by consensus or otherwise, from recruiting, supporting, or funding favored candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenCutip</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenCutip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It sounds like the Green Party is trying to turn a bottom up procedure into a top down process controlled by the party bosses.&quot;

As an Illinoisian Green, how our local area party slates candidates is that the legally recognized slating committee in that relevant district has its by-laws state that the committee shall act to the wishes of the Green Party membership in that area. This keeps the power in the hands of the GP members in the area and keeps intact consensus decision making and the integrity of one man, one man.

I wouldn&#039;t call that &quot;a top down process controlled by the party bosses.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It sounds like the Green Party is trying to turn a bottom up procedure into a top down process controlled by the party bosses.&#8221;</p>
<p>As an Illinoisian Green, how our local area party slates candidates is that the legally recognized slating committee in that relevant district has its by-laws state that the committee shall act to the wishes of the Green Party membership in that area. This keeps the power in the hands of the GP members in the area and keeps intact consensus decision making and the integrity of one man, one man.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call that &#8220;a top down process controlled by the party bosses.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Broy</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/09/illinois-removes-4-green-party-congressional-nominees-from-november-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-402373</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Broy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the green party followed state law,i hope they fight it in court.The Illinois election code is set up to make it very hard for third parties to get on the ballot or to stay on the ballot.The republicans or democrats do not want the people to have a real choice in november.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the green party followed state law,i hope they fight it in court.The Illinois election code is set up to make it very hard for third parties to get on the ballot or to stay on the ballot.The republicans or democrats do not want the people to have a real choice in november.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Huckelberry</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/09/illinois-removes-4-green-party-congressional-nominees-from-november-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-401723</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Huckelberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The four cases are all similar but not identical, and in the end, the four decisions wound up being all different as well.  We got the written rulings from the SOEB today.  (Richard, I&#039;ll be sending you the written rulings as well as the hearing examiner recommendations, which are lengthier.)

One of the things I would spotlight here is that in none of the four cases was the Democratic objection proper.  They all made vague allegations that proper procedure wasn&#039;t followed but provided no evidence thereof.  All evidence was based on testimony from the candidates themselves, or from Green Party officials.  The effect of this is chilling, because it establishes a precedent where in the future, every single candidate who files can be objected against with impunity, and then those candidates can be hauled into proceedings like this at their own expense and be forced to prove they didn&#039;t do anything wrong, even though the burden of proof isn&#039;t legally on them.

The decision of whether or not to go to court is up to each of the candidates, not the party.  I don&#039;t know what the candidates are intending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The four cases are all similar but not identical, and in the end, the four decisions wound up being all different as well.  We got the written rulings from the SOEB today.  (Richard, I&#8217;ll be sending you the written rulings as well as the hearing examiner recommendations, which are lengthier.)</p>
<p>One of the things I would spotlight here is that in none of the four cases was the Democratic objection proper.  They all made vague allegations that proper procedure wasn&#8217;t followed but provided no evidence thereof.  All evidence was based on testimony from the candidates themselves, or from Green Party officials.  The effect of this is chilling, because it establishes a precedent where in the future, every single candidate who files can be objected against with impunity, and then those candidates can be hauled into proceedings like this at their own expense and be forced to prove they didn&#8217;t do anything wrong, even though the burden of proof isn&#8217;t legally on them.</p>
<p>The decision of whether or not to go to court is up to each of the candidates, not the party.  I don&#8217;t know what the candidates are intending.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Yager</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/09/illinois-removes-4-green-party-congressional-nominees-from-november-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-401659</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Yager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It sounds like the Green Party is trying to turn a bottom up procedure into a top down process controlled by the party bosses.&quot;

It&#039;s probably more due to the Greens not having the same organizational strength as the Democrats and Republicans than some sort of nefarious intention.  They just achieved major party status in the 2006 election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It sounds like the Green Party is trying to turn a bottom up procedure into a top down process controlled by the party bosses.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably more due to the Greens not having the same organizational strength as the Democrats and Republicans than some sort of nefarious intention.  They just achieved major party status in the 2006 election.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/09/illinois-removes-4-green-party-congressional-nominees-from-november-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-401609</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illinois law permits vacancies in precinct committeemen to be filled by appointment by the county chair, but explicitly does not allow this to occur from the time of the primary, when party voters elect them, until a month after the general election.  

When precinct committeemen fill candidate vacancies, their vote is weighted based on the number of person&#039;s voting in the party primary in their jurisdiction, in effect making the vacancy process a form of indirect primary.

It sounds like the Green Party is trying to turn a bottom up procedure into a top down process controlled by the party bosses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illinois law permits vacancies in precinct committeemen to be filled by appointment by the county chair, but explicitly does not allow this to occur from the time of the primary, when party voters elect them, until a month after the general election.  </p>
<p>When precinct committeemen fill candidate vacancies, their vote is weighted based on the number of person&#8217;s voting in the party primary in their jurisdiction, in effect making the vacancy process a form of indirect primary.</p>
<p>It sounds like the Green Party is trying to turn a bottom up procedure into a top down process controlled by the party bosses.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Prindle</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/09/illinois-removes-4-green-party-congressional-nominees-from-november-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-401031</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Prindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this story should be brought to the attention of the national media; I only hope it can be done without drawing attention to the fact that the Illinois Greens nominated Troy Dennis in the first place, even though he takes positions diametrically opposed to those of the Green Party on most issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this story should be brought to the attention of the national media; I only hope it can be done without drawing attention to the fact that the Illinois Greens nominated Troy Dennis in the first place, even though he takes positions diametrically opposed to those of the Green Party on most issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott West</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/06/09/illinois-removes-4-green-party-congressional-nominees-from-november-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-401015</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found only two news stories on the removal of the Greens from the Illinois November ballot.  The Chicago Daily Herald gets the number of candidates wrong, but quotes Green Party officials at greater length.  The Pentagraph article includes some very nasty quotes from Democratic Party officials.

Dennis, other Greens removed from ballot
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/06/09/news/doc484dbbdab7e86793490814.txt
By Kenneth Lowe
Kenneth.lowe@lee.net
Bloomington Pentagraph
Monday, June 9, 2008 7:37 PM CDT

Three Green Party candidates removed from ballot
By David Beery &#124; Daily Herald Staff
Published: 6/10/2008 12:03 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=205191&amp;src=2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found only two news stories on the removal of the Greens from the Illinois November ballot.  The Chicago Daily Herald gets the number of candidates wrong, but quotes Green Party officials at greater length.  The Pentagraph article includes some very nasty quotes from Democratic Party officials.</p>
<p>Dennis, other Greens removed from ballot<br />
<a href="http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/06/09/news/doc484dbbdab7e86793490814.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/06/09/news/doc484dbbdab7e86793490814.txt</a><br />
By Kenneth Lowe<br />
<a href="mailto:Kenneth.lowe@lee.net">Kenneth.lowe@lee.net</a><br />
Bloomington Pentagraph<br />
Monday, June 9, 2008 7:37 PM CDT</p>
<p>Three Green Party candidates removed from ballot<br />
By David Beery | Daily Herald Staff<br />
Published: 6/10/2008 12:03 AM<br />
<a href="http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=205191&amp;src=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=205191&amp;src=2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope they go to court on this one. As it was already  said.....done in a communist state and our press would be all over it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope they go to court on this one. As it was already  said&#8230;..done in a communist state and our press would be all over it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the spirit of comments 3, 5, and 7 above, this seems like the sort of story that ought to be brought to the attention of the national media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the spirit of comments 3, 5, and 7 above, this seems like the sort of story that ought to be brought to the attention of the national media.</p>
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