Kansas Reform Party Desires to Nominate Baldwin for President

The Kansas Reform Party is ballot-qualified. At its recent state convention, the sentiment was strong for nominating Chuck Baldwin for president. Some kinks remain to be worked out, however. The Kansas Secretary of State seems to feel that a state ballot-qualified party cannot nominate the presidential candidate of another nationally-organized political party (even though that nationally-organized party is not on the ballot in Kansas). Clarification is being sought. Chuck Baldwin, of course, is the Constitution Party’s presidential candidate; he was nominated at the national convention in April 2008.

In 1980, Kansas let the American Party of Kansas nominate a presidential candidate who was different than the presidential candidate chosen by the national convention of the American Party. The national convention had chosen Percy Greaves for president, but the American Party of Kansas (which was ballot-qualified) instead ran Frank W. Shelton for president.

Also, in 1968, Kansas let the ballot-qualified Conservative Party nominate George Wallace for president. Kansas is the only state in which Wallace accepted the nomination of a previously qualified state party. In all the other 49 states, he declined such nominations and either ran as an independent or set up his own new party, which was called American Independent in some states, American in some states, and the George Wallace Party in some states, and the Courage Party in New York.


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  1. So, how does this effect the possibilities for the Reform Party Convention and Florida?

    Speaking of that, what in the world are the possibilities for the Reform nomination? Are they in the ballot in any other places except Colorado, Florida, Louisiana, and Mississippi?

    As for Kansas. If I recall correctly, the American Party of Kansas tried nominating Mel Thomson and Ronald Reagan before going to Shelton. Someone in the Greaves wing of the party tried to get him nominated too.

    Nothing as unusual as the Ronald Reagan/Jerry Brown ticket attempted by a New Mexico party in 1976.

  2. Well I guess there should be no suprise that Nader will not be taking any Reform Party nominations this year. However, how will he get on the ticket in Flordia; are there other minor parties in Florida he could attempt to be nominated by?

  3. The National Party/Convention thing is going to lead to legal action if Nader just gets some friends to form a new party in Florida.

    But the odds of a lawsuit regarding Nader and Florida are very good, even if he should be irrelevant in the overall result there.

  4. Mr. Anon’s comment refers to the New Mexico American Independent Party. It was ballot-qualified and refused to place the choice of the 1976 national convention (Lester Maddox) on the ballot. Instead, as Mr. Anon says, it tried to nominate Ronald Reagan. But Reagan refused the nomination, so the party ran no one for president in New Mexico.

  5. The Reform Party is ballot-qualified in Mississippi, Louisiana, Kansas and Florida. It is not ballot-qualified in Colorado.

  6. Nader is angling for the Ecology Party line in FL.

    So who, if anyone, is going to get the national Reform Party line or is the Perot Party dead?

  7. Aw yes, Eidness’s showing with the Reform Party made it seem like Reform might have more access than expected (I think Nader was on the CO ballot with the Reform Party too).

    And the Ecology Party.. if that happens, then presumably they need to find a good hotel for a convention and another state for Ecology Party access. If not, then Nader’s access will be up in the air for a bit.

  8. Eidness didn’t run for a statewide office, so his very large vote didn’t help the Reform Party remain on the ballot. The party needed either 1% of the vote in a statewide race, or else it needed 1,000 registrants.

  9. Yeah, I don’t know how easy the access was for Congressional races.

    The sad thing about the current state of the Reform Party is that Imperato could win their nomination if he wanted it. (Or Imperato would beat Keyes). Granted, it would be a bit awkward for Imperato to keep running after endorsing Barr.

  10. Let me first start and say I am registered to the Reform Party, from New Jersey, and plan on attending the National Convention.

    I am a bit disapointed that Kansas has decided to jump up in front of everything and attempt to give their ballot line to Chuck Baldwin…. even worse I am a bit disappointed that it’s Chuck Baldwin someone who I don’t think helps the party in anyway.

    Kansas just held their state convention last weekend and to me it seems like they would be at the national convention. There are some other states where the Reform Party doesn’t have ballot lines, but has enough people/references to get on the ballot and a perfect example of that is Rhode Island.

  11. “And the Ecology Party.. if that happens, then presumably they need to find a good hotel for a convention and another state for Ecology Party access. If not, then Nader’s access will be up in the air for a bit.”

    To say the least! If Nader doesn’t establish the Ecology Party in another state, he’s staring at 104,334 signatures by July 15 to qualify as an independent.

  12. Could Nader feasibly establish his independent parties in New Mexico and Hawaii as being Ecology Parties? Doubtful I know but if he has supporters within the Ecology Party in Florida then perhaps their is a possibility?

  13. I thought the Kansas Reform Party disaffiliated itself a couple of tears ago or so and was thinking at that time of joining the CP.

  14. That’s a tough question on who would help the Reform Party. A really tough one, because that person would only be on about 10-20 ballots without further help. I would really have loved to help out Nader, but we don’t see that happening according to Richard and various reports.

    I would not mind, and this might sound crazy, to co-endorse Charles Jay. I just don’t see Baldwin getting much more then 200k votes. I rather get a out there and try something new or a bit different in Charles Jay. To be honest, I really don’t know.

    If Gravel decided not to give up politics I would have personally asked him, but I don’t see that either. Maybe Jesse Johnson out of the Green Party?

  15. “Maybe Jesse Johnson out of the Green Party?”

    Probably not. He’s pledged to support the Green Party nominee, and he might get the VP nod if McKinney wins the nomination.

  16. Why is Ralph Nader not interested in the Reform Party? If he does not want the nomination(s), then I think that Jesse Ventura would help the most – if he could be persuaded to run. Since we still have the electoral college, it seems to me that it is quite appropriate to be on the ballot in only a few states!

  17. Yeah, I am wondering if the Reform Party is not interested in him rather than the other way around. Nader lost one of his key supporters in Lenora Fulani who used to be active in the Reform Party and NY Independence Party.

  18. P.S Sorry to hear about P&F voters not getting their ballots. How much do you think that will effect the outcome of the races for committee members?

  19. Please allow me to clear up a few things:

    The Reform Party does indeed still exist and does function. Details will be released at a later time about RP’s full activities for this cycle.

    There will be a national convention of the Reform Party this year. It will take place in mid-July in Dallas, TX. This convention will produce a nominee for President.

    I don’t understand Mr. Anon’s remarks about Nader and lawsuits in Florida. Perhaps you know something I don’t. The remarks don’t comport with what I do know for sure. Please write to chairman@reformparty.org with details.

    Daniel Imperato couldn’t get the time of day from our delegations.

    Jesse Ventura cut his ties with RP back in late 1999. He hasn’t looked back. When he left, he took the RP-affiliated state party of which he was a member with him. RP does not expect his return.

    Nader’s people have expressed some interest in RP’s support. Whether or not they’ll actually seek RP-National’s nomination is still an open question at this moment.

    RP-Kansas is still formally affiliated with RP’s National Convention.

    “Jake”: Please contact me through the RP’s published phone #, 325-672-2575 or through chairman@reformparty.org. It’s important.

    Don Lake: Kindly refrain from giving Jerome Heineman’s or John Blare’s illegitimate splinter groups any more free publicity. Take a chill pill.

    The IP of NY and Lenora Fulani are gone from RP-USA for good. That they may or may not support Nader is of no consequence to RP.

    Charles Foster
    Immediate Past Chair,
    RP – National Committee.
    325-672-2575

  20. Dearest charlie, as a PAST CHAIR of a splinter group of the reform movement you had time to get certified as a medical doctor? Telling me [as a citizen, and not even in your own home state!] to take a ‘chill pill’ goes against what most independents and third party types believe in. Do you disagree with the slogan, ‘the job of the active citizen is to keep their mouth open?’

    Every one, ESPECIALLY THAT BLOB OF RESIDENT EVIL, JEWISH NAZI AND DON LAKE DEBTOR John Blare, believes in FREE SPEACH, as long as it is some thing they want to hear! So if you are the past national chair of the fakey dakey Atlanta and Tampa Saint Pete conventions in a down town diner corner booth —who is the current chair?

    And please, why do you insist on calling that monumental fake, Beverly ‘Winging It’ Kennedy a parlimentarian. She is the female counter twin of Blare, Bambey, and Coffey.

    Well, at least your rag tag group does not place loyality to Israel above the dead and dying of the USS Liberty! At least you [supposedly] had SOME real life human beings show up at your so called conventions! And at least you guys did not claim to be merely huddled around a speaker phone in Bambey’s apartment!

    And Blare [whom, with Valli Sharpe Giesler, still owes me money], I never mentioned him once. I believe he is a full fledged member of the Independence movement —including fakey dakey Independent Green Party SPOs! Er, ah, convention meeting minutes and attendance sheet[s]? Is good ole Bev still working on that, like the Madison – Kennedy production of the December 2004 Reform Party USA print house organ?

  21. In regards to Mr. Foster,

    Any references to Nader and lawsuits in Florida involve ballot access and the process used to get Nader access in that state. Barring a Nader nomination by the Reform party (noted as unlikely), such lawsuits would not involve the Reform Party.

    So, who are the strong contenders going into the Reform Party convention in Dallas (is it in Dallas? or somewhere else?)

  22. Mr.Foster,

    Thanks for your update on the activities of the Reform Party. I would note however that your website and email is down I hope that is temporary.

    Everyone seems to be saying that Nader is unlikely to seek the nomination of the Reform Party yet you seem to indicate otherwise. Who within Nader’s campaign is approaching the Reform Party; staff members or simply supporters withing Florida?

    Is Chuck Baldwin indeed the forerunner or is Kansas simply acting independently of the National Reform Party or what remains of it?

  23. In addition I understand the Reform Party has splintered so: who has the ability to nominate a candidate for President and what ballot lines can they gather? Do the various state parties have the ability to give nominate a candidate seperate from the national organization?

  24. Greetings All:

    The only current and legitimate litigation involving the Reform Party USA is currently in the 193rd Judicial District of Texas, which by the way continues to recodnize myself as the legitimate Chairman of the Party until new Officers are elected at the Court Ordered Convention in July.

    Currently the Party is under Injunction and a Court Ordered Receiver, so who the Chairman is is not important as when the Court appointed a Receiver, the Receiver assumed oversight of the Party.

    The Court’s Orders are posted for download at http://WWW.REFORMPARTYUSA.US.

    The Public is cautioned however that representatives of the Independence Party of America may make representations that they are the leaders of their national Party AND the Reform Party too, this of course is silly and not consistent with law, the Orders of the Court and any degree of intellectual honesty and the most common person knows that no one can be Chair of two National Parties.

    Hope this clears up any misunderstandings.

    Rodney Martin
    Outgoing Chairman, RPUSA

  25. LOL not really though I appreciate the post. So are you and Charles Foster affiliated with eachother? Are your branches of the Reform Party(ies) the same that nominated Nader in 2004?

  26. Nader most truly be a genius if he was able to secure in 2004 the nomination of a party so fractured as this lol.

  27. Ultimately, I get the sense that the remains of the Reform party will become parts of the Independence Party.

    But if the IPA doesn’t do much with or without Reform, it wouldn’t stun me. Something about the alliance of IPMN, IPNY, and VIG* doesn’t strike me as a stable alliance

    (VIG – Virginia Independent Greens)

    Not to disparage the IPMN too badly, as they’re the most normal part of the IPA, but they’re also contrarian in senses too. I would love it if they posted their caucus results (*hinthint*) although they e-mailed me some results when I mentioned that a month or so ago.

    Ok, to summarize the Reform party situation

    No Imperato (although he could always recieve a vote, to continue his streak of getting votes and losing nominations [he got a vote at the CP con and the LP con])

    No Keyes (C’mon, like that would happen)

    Maybe Nader (although Nader has a backup plan)

    And the next chairman is the person who brings the most friends to Dallas?

    is that pretty much accurate?

  28. Anon, here is what I can think of to add to that list.

    I would not mind cross endorsing someone like McKinney or possibly even someone out of the Boston Tea Party.

    I think for the Reform Party it goes down to two things.

    1) Do you nominate someone who can get some national press on occasion(McKinney?) and hope that they become some infamous “spoiler”, but at the end of the day doesn’t really help grow the party into different states.

    2) Do you nominate someone inside the party to run. This could help build some local grassroots efforts for the party and start up some states where the party is barely surviving or has nothing at all. While you won’t get any big numbers for that, in the best scenerio you could add 7-10 new state connections.

    That is a difficult battle and decision to make. By the way, I talked to Foster today and he said they were on the ballot in Colorado, but lost it in ’06. They’ve run some strong candidates there though.

    Also, in ’08 I’ve seen/read that Reform Party groups have run or are running candidates in Florida, Arizona, and Washington. I believe Arizona is for state legislature, Florida for something local but they have two people in office there, and Washington for Gov.

    Rhode Island also it seems is endorsing someone who is running as an independent.

  29. It seems to me that what happened to the Natural Law Party in 2004 is now happening to the Reform Party in 2008 – minus a guru telling them to call it quits. Sad but true.

    My advice to all Reform Party members in California: Change your registration to the Peace and Freedom Party – right now! We have ballot status!

  30. Ha, California Reformites could always join the American Independent Party, like thousands of other confused Californian voters.

  31. But Abortion, Homosexual Rights, and religion in public administration are such politically minor yet emotionally major issue[s]! And I am not confused at all —except why a national party named ‘Constitution’ cares so little about the Constitution…..

  32. More stuff to inform and set the record straight:

    Yes; reformparty.org has been hacked as of late, perhaps more than once, and it is down last I checked. I’d rather it be down than have some prankster’s doggerel all over it. It needs an update pretty badly anyway, and the deficiencies in it have been a sore spot with me for a long time. It will see an edit or overhaul in the near future, I’m sure.

    ******

    Regarding Nader and the RP Nomination:
    I’ve had a three conversations with someone by phone over 5 months’ time who is part of Nader’s inner circle. I will not identify that person by name.

    Even though I’ve stepped back from official duties as of January due to my wife’s severe illness, it seems that I still have a job, and fielding pitches from candidates has been part of it. I’ve kept Nader’s folks at arms’ length on purpose. That was the only proper position to take. Mainly, I’ve answered their questions fully and politely, and I make it a point to be neutral as far as encouraging Mr. Nader’s candidacy is concerned. The ball is still in their court. The RP nomination isn’t up to me, nor is it there for the taking by Nader. There will be competition for the RP nomination. That’s all I can say.

    The main thing to remember about Nader is this: He doesn’t like parties and doesn’t understand them. Neither do some of his people.

    ******

    RP-Kansas is run by Buchanan loyalists who stuck around. They walked out of the Denver Convention when the Buchanan pro-life platform plank was struck down, and haven’t had a lot to say to the rest of RP since then. Their preferences for Mr. Baldwin are only the sentiments of RPKS. The RP nominee will be selected by the Convention.

    ******

    The member-states of RP still with ballot qualification, and those states whose loyalties are with the ballot-qualified states, make up the legitimate RP.

    The splinters are made up of individuals (about a dozen total, nationwide) whose only talent and industry is that of infighting. They have no influence over any ballot line in any state, except perhaps Yuma County, AZ.

    There are three splinters, and the noise they make vastly overshadows their actual importance. The legitimate RP sued elements of one splinter (Dallas 193rd District Court), which boycotted the 2005 convention, and won injunction against them. That injunction forbids the splinter from holding forth as the “real” RP. Rodney Martin was with that splinter. The coming court-ordered and supervised convention will disolve the division issues. Rodney Martin’s comments are concurrent with this and correct except for his self-characterization as being recognized by the court as a National officer.

    Court proceedings are a tricky business. In order to prevail, the legitimate RP had to effectively sue a false mirror image of itself to sort this all out. Again; the legitimate RP has prevailed by injunction. Martin’s presence in the defendant group now enjoined is coincidental to the fact that the injunction de-legitimized the gathering of splinters which “elected” him. Therefore, he is not recognized in the way he has claimed.

    ******

    Now; any of you who think for an instant that IP-NY/IPA is somehow going to gain influence over RP in the future are very wrong. Claims of such have no substance whatever.

    ******

    Don Lake; Get some help soon, ok?

    Charles Foster
    Immediate Past Chair
    RP National Committee

  33. I guess given the situation that is the clearest answer possible. Thanks Mr. Foster.

  34. Correction to Mr. Foster– The Texas Court Orders that he referes to were granted on Motions argued in support by me. I was at the Hearing, Mr. Foster was not. I concurred and argued in support of the present July Convention. Mr. Foster’s people, who lost a Federal Jury Judgement last Summer had no problem withme signing Court Orders in Texas as the RPUSA Chairman.

    Bottom line, there will be a July RPUSA Convention to reunify the Party. Some outsiders tried to buy their way in so as to onstruct this process. It will not stand.

    Cheers Mr. Foster.

  35. I can’t wait for July to be honest. It seems while there are still some arguments between different people, as you can tell on here, but at the same time they agree we need to step up to the plate and have a convention and allow the SPO’s and the Reform Party memebers decide on how to step foward.

    I find it quite lame how people are hacking into the RP website, but at the same time the Party does need a website and one that is updated. At least they can do is create a blog.

    Hopefully, Martin and Foster can come together or the various factions and we can get something going.

  36. Mr. Anon Says:
    June 13th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
    Ha, California Reformites could always join the American Independent Party, like thousands of other confused Californian voters.

    Phil Sawyer responds:

    Although not a “confused” voter, that is precisely what I did do in 2003 – after the Reform Party of California lost its ballot status in the Golden State. I actually followed Ezola Foster and Reed Heustis into this adventure. Although I was not involved in their political alliance, I did become lasting friends with Reed. We do not agree on a lot of the issues but we are both Christians and have mutual respect and friendship.

    Of course, I am no longer involved with the American Independent Party and the last that I had heard, Reed was not either.

    Charles Foster, Rodney Martin, and other Reform Party members deserve praise for their perseverance of effort. In addition, I would like to thank Charles and Rodney for the very helpful information that they have provided on these web pages. However, I still think that the Reform Party of America has seen its best days.

  37. Dearest jake: July? Independence Day? Flag Day? My Birth Day? Bastille Day? Convention? What Convention?

    Mister Foster, he of Patrick and Bay Buchanan’s strong box robbery of the reform movement at the turn of the century? Clear? Clear as mud! Foster, whom considers Beverly ‘Spinning Like a Weather Vane’ Kennedy a valid ‘Parliamentarian’? Foster, whose previous so called Third Party Watch postings and interviews are literally an embarrassment, via current events and recent history!

    But Kennedy’s appologist’s comment on my state is very correct! I do need help!

    Charlie can start out by telling the unvarnished truth! First, why did not not speak up when Resident Evil Blare, the Jewish Nazi, stole money from me?

    Secondly, why did you not speak up when the Jewish Mafia [Blare, Bambey, and Coffey] successfully KILLED the national blog and the inhouse print organ in order to protect the long gone Israeli government and their murder of unarmed American sailors? The kind words and anti Blare sentiments directly spoken in private never made it for public consumption!

    Charlie, is it a SECRET that you love America, the USS Liberty and United States Veterans more than murdering Jewish Government[s], IDF agent[s], Mossad agent[s] and Valli Sharpe- Geisler, Coffey, Bambey, and Blare? Have I exposed your secret?

    According to Blare [one of the most dishonest and abusive folks I have ever know], presto whamo, Independence Party guru Frank MacKey is now [Mid March 2008? ] Reform Party USA National Chair. I have never ever read where Frankie Baby said any thing about his chair man ship or even the reform movement!

    And it gets worse. All these states with Green Party USA affiliates and also ‘competing’ Independent Green organizations? Think sneaky Frank and the so called Independence Party! Keep your eyes open!

    One more piece of help, Charles! Just what is YOUR job with a group that never ever has published it’s convention meeting minutes and attendance sheets? I do need help, Mister Foster! You can start by apologizing for the past and start telling the truth!

  38. A couple of facts respectfully submitted to this forum for your thoughtful consideration:

    I shall be a candidate for President of the United States of America.

    The Reform Party of Nevada has been newly re-established and recognized by the Nevada Secretary of State as a viable Minor Political Party. We have properly filed a Certificate of Existence; the RPNV Constitution and By-laws; our List of Candidates; and we are currently fervently working on achieving ballot access in Nevada.

    There are indeed discussions between Mr. Nader and numberous officials of the Reform Party USA.

    Despite adding my personal efforts to unite the various factions of the Reform Party USA, and that includes cordial and informative exchanges with Mr. Foster and Mr. Martin, Mr. Heineman and Mr. Lake, and former friendly exchanges with Ms. Kennedy and Mrs. Weill, I, as chairman of the Reform Party of Nevada, recognize Mr. Frank MacKay as the singular chairman of the Reform Party USA. Further, I think that forthcoming publishings of recent court rulings will serve to establish Mr. MacKay’s legitimacy as the chairman of the Reform Party USA.

    That said, I strongly urge all American patriots, such as yourselves, to reserve your judgments, nominations, and joining alliances regarding the RPUSA until all of the facts – and candidates – in any of these matters are presented.

    Best wishes to all.

    Bruce Westcott, Chairman
    Reform Party of Nevada
    westcott2008@aol.com

  39. And how did Mister MacKay get the position? What process and what meeting minutes [and canceled checks] and attendance sheets? Come on Bruce!

    ‘No, no, I am Sparticus!’

    ‘No, no, I am Sparticus!’

    ‘No, no, I am Sparticus!’

  40. Interesting education we get here.

    I am a Kansas Reform Party candidate for US Congress. I had very little to do with the decision to endorse Chuck Baldwin as the best alternative to Ron Paul, other than go along with the votes of the majority.

    Yes, it appears that the Reform Party USA is fractured and splintered but, it seems to me, no more than the rest of the American opposition to the NWO control over our society.

    What chance does America have to survive in its identity that many of us veterans took an oath to defend? My bid to promote America’s survival in in the words of my campaign letter as follows:
    **************************

    Independent and 3rd party candidates are receiving much support from people who recognize that our nation’s political standards have become corrupted.
    Americans were warned of major corruption in President Eisenhower’s Farewell Address to the Nation. In the following words from that January 17, 1961 speech, President Eisenhower warned of an un-American agenda promoted by special interest individuals and groups. He said:
    “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”
    “We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.”
    “The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.”
    “Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
    What President Eisenhower spoke of involves secrecy. It is likely linked to the worst corruption against the principles America was founded on, against the spirit of the Declaration of Independence and the law of the U. S. Constitution. The corruption can be described in terms of a “New World Order” with an agenda against mankind’s unalienable rights through means of population reduction, abortions and control.
    We invite all Americans to recognize this problem and join in the campaign to promote greater public unity against it. Stand with those who believe in mankind’s unalienable rights as declared in the Declaration of Independence. Stand with those who support the laws of the Constitution and the unalienable rights of mankind for our people.
    Join with other Americans in the Committee of Correspondence at http://usiap.org/CofC/CofC.htm . Join to help raise the voice of a united people that will be able to properly influence the actions of our U. S. Congress. Join to oppose those who ignore the laws of our Constitution because they have little or no trust in God to manage the affairs and populations of a world that choses to reject His Word.
    Stand up America. Stand up and promote the cause of American patriotism. Stand up in patriotic pride for our laws of independence and liberty. Stand up in Committees of Correspondence to campaign and petition for right and for following Constitutional laws.
    To promote an American future based upon our great American Founding Documents that any freedom loving American would expect, support the election of candidates who stand for preserving American independence and liberty. Support the election of such candidates as Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin who stand to continue America’s heritage of a people who have promoted America as one nation under God, united by the voice of a people who honor liberty as confirmed by the laws of the Constitution. Another such candidate is Roger Tucker at http://www.RogerTucker4Congress.com .
    As America’s Founding Fathers felt need to express faith in God, should we do less?
    “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.” In this expression of the American faith, we can see God’s handiwork in America’s establishment.
    We also see God’s handiwork as far as man can see in the stars above. Their number and distance strain man’s ability to comprehend. Scripture tells us that God put them there on day four of the creation of our world.
    Through instruments of science, man looks in upon himself and his environment in God’s creation and finds a marvelous tapestry of interchangeable mass and energy. Through the law of E=MC², man has harnessed this relationship to create blinding heat.
    The word of God tells us that we should not put our trust in man or in the arm of flesh. In like manor, neither should we put our faith in the laws of science that learned men of this world rely on, except as those laws are agreeable with the will of God.
    Jesus Christ taught that the will and word of God is the law upon which all creation exists. By His law, He walked on water. By His law, He fed over five thousand people from five loaves and two fishes. Fragments that remained from this feast filled twelve baskets. By His law, comes our resurrection and judgment. Jesus said, believe, repent, forgive, love your enemies, pray for them, follow me.
    The word of God is the law and as His word is spoken, so goes the law. The laws of science throughout our universe exist only by the will of God. The fact that man is free to explore and apply these laws for either right or wrong is a miracle.
    Stand up for America where the rights and beliefs of all are protected under our Constitution’s law.

  41. Без преувеличения можно точно сказать, что пост тему раскрыл на все 100 процентов. 🙂

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