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	<title>Comments on: McKinney Wins on First Ballot at Green Party Convention</title>
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		<title>By: Agustin Mccall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agustin Mccall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taylor is my fav singer!</description>
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		<title>By: Francisco Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francisco Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought the episode was AMAZIN!!! she can act almost as good as she can sing!!!!!=]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought the episode was AMAZIN!!! she can act almost as good as she can sing!!!!!=]</p>
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		<title>By: Hector Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/07/12/mckinney-winning-so-far-on-first-ballot-at-green-party-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-672685</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to those entering. You can’t do any worse than TS herself. Can you sing flat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to those entering. You can’t do any worse than TS herself. Can you sing flat?</p>
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		<title>By: saladin</title>
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		<dc:creator>saladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was McKinney able to get on the ballot in Georgia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was McKinney able to get on the ballot in Georgia?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Marston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Marston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JimN writes:&quot;Had he not made serious errors, of which the lack of a good faith effort to reach out to the African American Community was but one, he would have had a higher vote total. I am not going to speculate as to whether he would have reached the 5% he and the GP desired for federal funding, but the vote total would have been significantly higher.&quot;

Really ?

I guess you forgot that Ralph Nader made the effort to address the delegation at the NAACP Conference in both 2000 and 2004. Barrack O&#039;Bama on the otherhand blew off the NAACP&#039;s Convention this year.

After Nader&#039;s talk at the conference in 2000 a number of delegates were approached for interviews. In their response there was one constant. the statement &quot;Ralph Nader would make a good President&quot; with a sneering smile. And in this case it was the smile that said more than the words. The undercurrent message they sent was &quot;Ralph Nader would make a good President, BUT I&#039;M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM&quot;. 

I wonder if those delegates have reflected on that statement since Barack O&#039;Bama lectured a Black Congregation on Father&#039;s Day past about feeding their kids Popeyes for breakfast ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimN writes:&#8221;Had he not made serious errors, of which the lack of a good faith effort to reach out to the African American Community was but one, he would have had a higher vote total. I am not going to speculate as to whether he would have reached the 5% he and the GP desired for federal funding, but the vote total would have been significantly higher.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really ?</p>
<p>I guess you forgot that Ralph Nader made the effort to address the delegation at the NAACP Conference in both 2000 and 2004. Barrack O&#8217;Bama on the otherhand blew off the NAACP&#8217;s Convention this year.</p>
<p>After Nader&#8217;s talk at the conference in 2000 a number of delegates were approached for interviews. In their response there was one constant. the statement &#8220;Ralph Nader would make a good President&#8221; with a sneering smile. And in this case it was the smile that said more than the words. The undercurrent message they sent was &#8220;Ralph Nader would make a good President, BUT I&#8217;M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM&#8221;. </p>
<p>I wonder if those delegates have reflected on that statement since Barack O&#8217;Bama lectured a Black Congregation on Father&#8217;s Day past about feeding their kids Popeyes for breakfast ?</p>
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		<title>By: JimN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to #34: Nader&#039;s serious errors led to &quot;only&quot; 3 million votes. This was only about 2.5% of the total vote. Had he not made serious errors, of which the lack of a good faith effort to reach out to the African American Community was but one, he would have had a higher vote total. I am not going to speculate as to whether he would have reached the 5% he and the GP desired for federal funding, but the vote total would have been significantly higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to #34: Nader&#8217;s serious errors led to &#8220;only&#8221; 3 million votes. This was only about 2.5% of the total vote. Had he not made serious errors, of which the lack of a good faith effort to reach out to the African American Community was but one, he would have had a higher vote total. I am not going to speculate as to whether he would have reached the 5% he and the GP desired for federal funding, but the vote total would have been significantly higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Sawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Sawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that you prove, &quot;Pete,&quot; when you start calling names, is that you are losing the debates on the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that you prove, &#8220;Pete,&#8221; when you start calling names, is that you are losing the debates on the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first presidential election in my lifetime where the larger third party candidates SUCK WORSE than the major party candidates! McKinney for the Greens and Barr for the Libertarians? Geez. Is getting votes based on name recognition ALONE that important? Barr is a conniving closet neo-con and McKinney is a racially paranoid rage-o-holic. What is this, ex-hack-Congressperson run on a third party ticket year?? I know Nader didn&#039;t actively seek the GP nomination and Libertarian Harry Browne is long dead, but c&#039;mon. This is the best they could do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first presidential election in my lifetime where the larger third party candidates SUCK WORSE than the major party candidates! McKinney for the Greens and Barr for the Libertarians? Geez. Is getting votes based on name recognition ALONE that important? Barr is a conniving closet neo-con and McKinney is a racially paranoid rage-o-holic. What is this, ex-hack-Congressperson run on a third party ticket year?? I know Nader didn&#8217;t actively seek the GP nomination and Libertarian Harry Browne is long dead, but c&#8217;mon. This is the best they could do?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Sawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Sawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your persistence, Fred Behmer.  It seems to me that all of the &quot;progressive third parties&quot; could merge into one larger party.  Why not get together the Green Party of the U.S.; the Nader-Gonzalez forces (Independent, Populist, Peace and Freedom Parties, etc.); the Socialist Party USA; the Freedom Socialist Party; etc.?  We could start cooperating right now and that would give us a greater start for 2010!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your persistence, Fred Behmer.  It seems to me that all of the &#8220;progressive third parties&#8221; could merge into one larger party.  Why not get together the Green Party of the U.S.; the Nader-Gonzalez forces (Independent, Populist, Peace and Freedom Parties, etc.); the Socialist Party USA; the Freedom Socialist Party; etc.?  We could start cooperating right now and that would give us a greater start for 2010!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Marston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Marston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JimN wrote: &quot;If there were Greens opposed to Nader in 2004, it was because many felt that Nader committed serious errors in 2000, and wasnâ€™t the best standard bearer for the ideals of the party.&quot;

Yeah Nader committed some real serious errors. (sarcasm dripping) Which lead to nearly 3 million votes.

On the otherhand David Cobb&#039;s campaign in 2004 garnered a staggering 100,000 votes. 

The record shows who is competent to run a campaign.
 

JimN wrote: &quot;Most significant, to me at least, were his racial blinders. Greens in Michigan tried to get Nader to respond to an interest expressed by the African-American owned progressive newspaper, the Michigan Citizen (which published pro-Nader editorials by the likes of Manning Marable) to hold a rally in inner-city Detroit, but Nader blew them off. He also refrained from an interview with the Detroit Free Press editorial board during a strike against the Free Press only after a near mutiny, and then he unfairly blamed the affair on staff.&quot;

So Nader has racial blinders because he didn&#039;t show up for your party ? That wreaks of sour grapes. The fact of the matter is a few weeks ago Mumia Abu Jamal praised Nader as a &quot;sharp cookie&quot; for his efforts tp protect consumers.

Regarding Manning Marable if you go to his website you will see that he is now involved with the Open Society Insitute. This foundation was set up by Billionaire George Soros. The same George Soros who set up Moveon.org. And Marable wasn&#039;t the first Leftist bought off, or should I say muzzled by Soros.

Founding member of the California Green Party Walt Sheasby, may he Rest in Peace, did exstensive research the matter. What prompted him to focus his attention on the matter was several viscious attacks made against the Green Party by Michael Parenti in the run up to the last phase of the Iraq War in early 2003. Sheasby found out that Parenti&#039;s son Christian had been hired to work at George soros&#039;s Open Society Instirtute in new York. The article was published in a number journals and on websites. Here is the link to the original piece as it was transmitted to Owen Broadhurst of the Massachusetts Greens.

http://www.massgreens.org/pipermail/needtoknow/2003-November/001496.html

Now go to the Bio Page on Marable&#039;s website and drop down to the paragraph on CCBH&#039;s Journal Souls and read.

&quot;CCBH produces Souls, a quarterly academic journal of African-American Studies, which is published and distributed internationally by Taylor and Francis Publishers. 

With the support of the Open Society Institute (Soros Foundation),

 CCBHâ€™s Africana Criminal Justice Project has conducted a national survey of Black Studies departments to promote the development of new courses on race, crime and justice&quot;

http://www.manningmarable.net/biography/biography.html

Walt didn&#039;t know of Marable&#039;s dealings with Soros at the time he wrote the Neocens Paper but it sure seems eery that Nader is baited into these situations in 2004 Marable clams up about electoral and rarely makes speaking engages and then announces his partnership with Soros in 2006.

It looks to me like somebody or some people were played for suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimN wrote: &#8220;If there were Greens opposed to Nader in 2004, it was because many felt that Nader committed serious errors in 2000, and wasnâ€™t the best standard bearer for the ideals of the party.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah Nader committed some real serious errors. (sarcasm dripping) Which lead to nearly 3 million votes.</p>
<p>On the otherhand David Cobb&#8217;s campaign in 2004 garnered a staggering 100,000 votes. </p>
<p>The record shows who is competent to run a campaign.</p>
<p>JimN wrote: &#8220;Most significant, to me at least, were his racial blinders. Greens in Michigan tried to get Nader to respond to an interest expressed by the African-American owned progressive newspaper, the Michigan Citizen (which published pro-Nader editorials by the likes of Manning Marable) to hold a rally in inner-city Detroit, but Nader blew them off. He also refrained from an interview with the Detroit Free Press editorial board during a strike against the Free Press only after a near mutiny, and then he unfairly blamed the affair on staff.&#8221;</p>
<p>So Nader has racial blinders because he didn&#8217;t show up for your party ? That wreaks of sour grapes. The fact of the matter is a few weeks ago Mumia Abu Jamal praised Nader as a &#8220;sharp cookie&#8221; for his efforts tp protect consumers.</p>
<p>Regarding Manning Marable if you go to his website you will see that he is now involved with the Open Society Insitute. This foundation was set up by Billionaire George Soros. The same George Soros who set up Moveon.org. And Marable wasn&#8217;t the first Leftist bought off, or should I say muzzled by Soros.</p>
<p>Founding member of the California Green Party Walt Sheasby, may he Rest in Peace, did exstensive research the matter. What prompted him to focus his attention on the matter was several viscious attacks made against the Green Party by Michael Parenti in the run up to the last phase of the Iraq War in early 2003. Sheasby found out that Parenti&#8217;s son Christian had been hired to work at George soros&#8217;s Open Society Instirtute in new York. The article was published in a number journals and on websites. Here is the link to the original piece as it was transmitted to Owen Broadhurst of the Massachusetts Greens.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.massgreens.org/pipermail/needtoknow/2003-November/001496.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.massgreens.org/pipermail/needtoknow/2003-November/001496.html</a></p>
<p>Now go to the Bio Page on Marable&#8217;s website and drop down to the paragraph on CCBH&#8217;s Journal Souls and read.</p>
<p>&#8220;CCBH produces Souls, a quarterly academic journal of African-American Studies, which is published and distributed internationally by Taylor and Francis Publishers. </p>
<p>With the support of the Open Society Institute (Soros Foundation),</p>
<p> CCBHâ€™s Africana Criminal Justice Project has conducted a national survey of Black Studies departments to promote the development of new courses on race, crime and justice&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.manningmarable.net/biography/biography.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.manningmarable.net/biography/biography.html</a></p>
<p>Walt didn&#8217;t know of Marable&#8217;s dealings with Soros at the time he wrote the Neocens Paper but it sure seems eery that Nader is baited into these situations in 2004 Marable clams up about electoral and rarely makes speaking engages and then announces his partnership with Soros in 2006.</p>
<p>It looks to me like somebody or some people were played for suckers.</p>
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