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		<title>By: Jake Witmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Witmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>darren Says: 
August 11th, 2008 at 7:10 pm 
&quot;Between Witmer and Dondero I was getting concerned the LP was about to melt down, but then I realized I was reading a script for the sequel to Glengarry Glen Ross. Both of you “friends” need a more constructive outlet for your bile.&quot;

--First, Eric Dondero is no &quot;friend&quot; of mine.  If you read that online, it&#039;s long outdated.  I gave him a second chance, because I agreed with certain parts of what he said, but he has been nothing but a betrayer of any trust I gave him, both philosophically, and financially.

In writing all of this, I was hoping to avoid a less destructive outlet for my &quot;bile&quot;, in the hopes that the people who still have not paid me for my work in WV will shell out the $3,106.77 that they still owe me for services rendered.

After all, when the lawyers start suing, it is often too late to achieve a positive result.

Sadly, I went out to save ballot access for WV, and Russell Verney and Shane Cory prevented me from doing that.  Verney seems to want to blame me for not agreeing to an extra-contractual &quot;daily turn in&quot; during the last week in WV.  As a reason for the turn-in, he stated that &quot;I need to know if it&#039;s realistic for us to succeed, so I can determine whether or not to pull the plug on this thing&quot;.  --Indicating that if I turned in daily, he would sabotage my continued employment, after his stooge broke every aspect of our written contract!  Did they ever have any intention of putting WV on the ballot?  (As if cutting into my petitioning day would have gotten me any more signatures, and as if one petitioner could be responsible for a drive failing.  ...All pure BS.)

Well, if the funds are not in my account tomorrow, I&#039;ll be spending the money that the more libertarian candidates (the ones that honor their contracts, like Independent Ralph Nader, and the Constitution Party) paid me in order to sue the  Barr Campaign, Verney, Cory, etc...

Sorry if you think my &quot;bile&quot; is not well spent on securing payment for work I have done.  That said, the LP is close to my heart, and I cannot allow the people who have so destroyed it to maintain their positions of power in 2012, when we will likely have a more responsible &quot;top of ticket&quot; candidate than we currently have.

I have never heard from Barr regarding this matter, but there are some glaring inconsistencies for anyone who thinks that Shane Cory is justified in withholding payment from me, or for anyone who thinks the failure of WV was my fault:
1) Why didn&#039;t Shane bring in the additional petitioners I wanted to bring in?
2) Why didn&#039;t Shane allow me to solve his problems for him? (There is an answer here, the agent provacateur Dondero told him not to trust using me as a &quot;coordinator&quot;, and the Shane actually listened to him.)  Personally, if a drive is floundering, I would think that advice about how to save it would be welcome from anyone who clearly displayed compentence, of course, Shane wasn&#039;t competent enough to ask enough questions to get to the bottom of things, until he had sabotaged all chance of success and pissed all over me.

At that point (after he had sent all of my petitioners away, or interfered with getting them into the state), he once told me something to the effect of &quot;we&#039;ve got a few more petitioners arriving tomorrow&quot;.

At that point, I think I replied something to the effect of: &quot;Why tell me about it?&quot;

After all, getting treated like dirt, and having a moronic middleman ruin everything you try to do only goes so far.  WV never had a chance of being on the ballot, with Shane Cory and Russell Verney running things.  That Verney still has apparently decided to withhold payment from me out of spite reveals he is a shild in a man&#039;s body.

BTW: Did Ross Perot give him around $50,000,000 to work with?  With that kind of money, my local garbage man could run a serious nationwide political campaign.

Plain and simple: Russell Verney does not deserve his rep, because he defers to simpletons like Cory, and then tries to solve every problem with threats and petty retaliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>darren Says:<br />
August 11th, 2008 at 7:10 pm<br />
&#8220;Between Witmer and Dondero I was getting concerned the LP was about to melt down, but then I realized I was reading a script for the sequel to Glengarry Glen Ross. Both of you “friends” need a more constructive outlet for your bile.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;First, Eric Dondero is no &#8220;friend&#8221; of mine.  If you read that online, it&#8217;s long outdated.  I gave him a second chance, because I agreed with certain parts of what he said, but he has been nothing but a betrayer of any trust I gave him, both philosophically, and financially.</p>
<p>In writing all of this, I was hoping to avoid a less destructive outlet for my &#8220;bile&#8221;, in the hopes that the people who still have not paid me for my work in WV will shell out the $3,106.77 that they still owe me for services rendered.</p>
<p>After all, when the lawyers start suing, it is often too late to achieve a positive result.</p>
<p>Sadly, I went out to save ballot access for WV, and Russell Verney and Shane Cory prevented me from doing that.  Verney seems to want to blame me for not agreeing to an extra-contractual &#8220;daily turn in&#8221; during the last week in WV.  As a reason for the turn-in, he stated that &#8220;I need to know if it&#8217;s realistic for us to succeed, so I can determine whether or not to pull the plug on this thing&#8221;.  &#8211;Indicating that if I turned in daily, he would sabotage my continued employment, after his stooge broke every aspect of our written contract!  Did they ever have any intention of putting WV on the ballot?  (As if cutting into my petitioning day would have gotten me any more signatures, and as if one petitioner could be responsible for a drive failing.  &#8230;All pure BS.)</p>
<p>Well, if the funds are not in my account tomorrow, I&#8217;ll be spending the money that the more libertarian candidates (the ones that honor their contracts, like Independent Ralph Nader, and the Constitution Party) paid me in order to sue the  Barr Campaign, Verney, Cory, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry if you think my &#8220;bile&#8221; is not well spent on securing payment for work I have done.  That said, the LP is close to my heart, and I cannot allow the people who have so destroyed it to maintain their positions of power in 2012, when we will likely have a more responsible &#8220;top of ticket&#8221; candidate than we currently have.</p>
<p>I have never heard from Barr regarding this matter, but there are some glaring inconsistencies for anyone who thinks that Shane Cory is justified in withholding payment from me, or for anyone who thinks the failure of WV was my fault:<br />
1) Why didn&#8217;t Shane bring in the additional petitioners I wanted to bring in?<br />
2) Why didn&#8217;t Shane allow me to solve his problems for him? (There is an answer here, the agent provacateur Dondero told him not to trust using me as a &#8220;coordinator&#8221;, and the Shane actually listened to him.)  Personally, if a drive is floundering, I would think that advice about how to save it would be welcome from anyone who clearly displayed compentence, of course, Shane wasn&#8217;t competent enough to ask enough questions to get to the bottom of things, until he had sabotaged all chance of success and pissed all over me.</p>
<p>At that point (after he had sent all of my petitioners away, or interfered with getting them into the state), he once told me something to the effect of &#8220;we&#8217;ve got a few more petitioners arriving tomorrow&#8221;.</p>
<p>At that point, I think I replied something to the effect of: &#8220;Why tell me about it?&#8221;</p>
<p>After all, getting treated like dirt, and having a moronic middleman ruin everything you try to do only goes so far.  WV never had a chance of being on the ballot, with Shane Cory and Russell Verney running things.  That Verney still has apparently decided to withhold payment from me out of spite reveals he is a shild in a man&#8217;s body.</p>
<p>BTW: Did Ross Perot give him around $50,000,000 to work with?  With that kind of money, my local garbage man could run a serious nationwide political campaign.</p>
<p>Plain and simple: Russell Verney does not deserve his rep, because he defers to simpletons like Cory, and then tries to solve every problem with threats and petty retaliation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Witmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Witmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;ll go through this and refute the lies in as much detail as possible, since the following post is Eric&#039;s most grossly inaccurate post.

My comments will be in all caps for ease of separation from dondero&#039;s comments, not for emphasis:

&quot;Ahh, now we’re getting to the meat of the matter. Jake is even more disgruntled cause Shane Cory would not hire him as “Coordinator” for the West Virginia drive.&quot;
YES, BECAUSE DOING SO WOULD HAVE SAVED THE WV DRIVE, THAT ERIC WAS INTENTIONALLY SABOTAGING, BEHIND THE SCENES.  INTERESTINGLY, ERIC STAYED OUT OF WV, WHEN THEY DESPERATELY NEEDED PETITIONERS.  SHANE HAD NO EXPERIENCE WITH RUNNING A DRIVE, AND WAS LISTENING TO ERIC, (BECAUSE HE HAD NO EXPERIENCE RUNNING A PETITION DRIVE).

&quot;Folks, Jake has been aiming to be a “Coordinator” for years in this business. UNTRUE, ALTHOUGH I SOMETIMES FILL THAT POSITION WHEN THERE&#039;S THE NEED AND EXTRA MONEY IN IT FOR ME. That’s his lifelong dream. YOU IDIOTIC BASTARD, WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF ANY &quot;LIFELONG DREAM&quot;, MUCH LESS MINE?  THIS IS CLEARLY A COMMENT BASED ON ERIC EITHER BEING A COMPLETE MORON, OR ON KNOWING THAT THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. Problem is he has the social skills of an Aadvarrk. YOU&#039;RE ONE TO TALK! AND YOU ALSO CAN&#039;T SPELL ANYTHING RIGHT TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.  AMUSING FOR A SELF-DESCRIBED &quot;LANGUAGE EXPERT&quot;. The guy can’t seem to get along with anyone for any length of time. HMMM.  INTERESTING.  I GET ALONG WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WON&#039;T TALK TO YOU ANY LONGER, LIKE BRUCE COHEN, OF THE CA LP, AND ANTHONY GARCIA OF THE TEXAS LP, AND ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE AK LP (MINUS YOUR OLD FRIEND KOHLHAAS, WHOM I HAVE SEVERED RELATIONS WITH, BECAUSE OF HIS DISHONEST ACTIONS).  ...INTERESTINGLY, THEY ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO NEVER DEFRAUDED ME.  I COULD NAME A LONG LIST OF ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE NOT THE CROWD IN POWER AT THE NATIONAL LP HQ RIGHT NOW.

I USED TO GET ALONG WITH BILL REDPATH, BEFORE HE DECIDED NOT TO FIRE THE FRAUDSTERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2008 DRIVE.  MINUS OUR DISAGREEMENT ON WHETHER THAT WAS WISE, I THINK REDPATH IS STILL A COMPETENT AND HONEST GUY WHO SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE OF LOGIC AND REASON.  

SO WHOM DO I NOT GET ALONG WITH, ERIC?  THE INFANTILE SEAN HAUGH?  GUILTY AS CHARGED. I NEVER DID GET ALONG WITH HIM.  SHANE CORY?  I GOT ALONG WITH HIM BEFORE HE WAS PROMOTED BEYOND HIS LEVEL OF COMPETENCE (ALTHOUGH I HAD LITTLE TO DO WITH HIM.)  

Jake is a fantastic petitioner. THIS FOLLOWS THE PATTERN: JUST ENOUGH TRUTH SO THAT PEOPLE WILL BUY INTO THE LIE Head-to-head, when he’s motivated, he’s a better petitioner than me. EVERYONE IS, SINCE YOU LOVE TO BLATHER ABOUT HOW EVIL THE LEFTISTS ARE, TO FELLOW &quot;REPUBLICANS&quot; WHILE YOU WORK. But Coordinator material he is not. AS IF YOU WOULD KNOW, SINCE YOU&#039;VE NEVER BEEN A COORDINATOR IN ANY CAPACITY.  I ALSO WILL POINT OUT THAT YOUR OLD BOSS, RON PAUL, (WHO FIRED YOU) HIRED ME IN IL, AND THEN REHIRED ME IN INDIANA IN 2007 AND 2008.

I’ve witnessed Jake trying to “Sub-Coordinate” some drives in Western States like Oregon. He was a disaster. YOU WITNESSED NO SUCH THING.  NOT TO MENTION, I MADE MONEY, AND PAUL JACOB DIDN&#039;T TELL ME THERE WAS ANY PROBLEM (BEYOND A MINOR UNDESIRED RENTAL CAR EXPENSE FOR INSURANCE THAT INCREASED MY PER-SIG COST).  I THINK THAT OUR EMPLOYER WOULD HAVE COMPLAINED TO ME A BIT, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM.  A double disaster, cause he ended up spending 3/4ths of his time on the cell phone “coordinating” his underling petitioners off the street, and not gathering signatures himself. BUT THE NUMBERS I GOT WERE GOOD AND IT WAS WORTHWHILE TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, UNLESS I&#039;M WRONG.  IF I&#039;M WRONG, THEN P.J., PLEASE CALL ME AND SET ME STRAIGHT.  I ALSO BELIEVE I AND MY TEAM COLLECTED MORE SIGNATURES THAN ERIC DID ON THOSE DRIVES, ALTHOUGH I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.  ALSO, IF I&#039;M WRONG, THEN WHY WOULD THE PEOPLE IN MONTANA HAVE RECOMMENDED ME AS A PETITION COORDINATOR TO THEIR LOCAL VOLUNTEERS, WHEN I WAS WORKING FOR YOUR OLD BOSS, RON PAUL?

Jake, again, get back to being a great petitioner like you were before. WELL, I WOULD, BUT YOU&#039;VE BEEN SPREADING LIES AND SLANDER ABOUT ME THAT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET EMPLOYED ON THOSE RARE OCCASIONS THAT I WANT TO PETITION/COORDINATE.  (THERE IS NO PROPER DISTINCTION BETWEEN &quot;PETITIONER&quot; AND &quot;COORDINATOR&quot; FOR THOSE WHO CAN DO BOTH, WHEN THE NEED EXISTS.  TITLES ARE USED TO PROTECT THOSE WHO ARE INCOMPETENT AT ONE OR THE OTHER.) And forget this “Coordinating” nonsense. You suck at it. GO TO HELL, ERIC, YOU LYIN&#039; BACKSTABBER. You don’t suck at petitioning. LIKE YOU DO? We want the old Jake back. WHO IS &quot;WE&quot;?  OH YEAH, THE GUYS WHO GAVE YOU YOUR OPINION, THE GUYS WRITING YOUR PAYCHECK, SEAN HAUGH, SCOTT KOHLHAAS, SHANE CORY, RUSSELL VERNEY, ...THE GUYS WHO HAVE GOTTEN THE LP INTO THIS MESS BY DEFRAUDING THE LONGTIME LIBERTARIAN ACTIVISTS (WHICH DOESN&#039;T INCLUDE THE BIG &quot;R&quot; REPUBLICAN &#039;AGENT PROVACATEUR&#039; ERIC DONDERO)The libertarian movement desperately needs your significant petition gathering skills. BUT NOT ENOUGH THAT SEAN HAUGH DECIDED TO USE THEM IN CT, WHERE THEY WERE &quot;DESPERATELY NEEDED&quot;. APPARENTLY, AFTER HIS SUBORDINATE ASSISTANT (AND COMPETENCY-BASED SUPERIOR)--SCOTT KOHLHAAS-- HIRED ME, AND THEN DODGED MY PHONE CALLS, LEAVING ME IN THE LURCH WITHOUT KNOWING IF I WAS HIRED OR NOT, WITH THE CLOCK TICKING ON MY RENTAL CAR. THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF ERIC&#039;S STORY THAT DOESN&#039;T ADD UP, BUT THAT IS DIFFICULT FOR THOSE UNINVOLVED WITH THE PETITIONING PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND. 

IN SHORT, ERIC IS A LIAR AND DISINFORMATION PROPAGANDIST, PAR EXCELLENCE.  HE FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE DEN OF VIPERS THE LP&#039;S UPPER MANAGEMENT HAS BECOME.

Note: I still have not been paid the $3,106.77 I am owed for my completed work in WV.  I&#039;m going to suggest that my lawyer contact McCain&#039;s lawyers tomorrow, and that they personally sue Shane Cory and Russell Verney.  If the LP doesn&#039;t mind just openly defrauding the people who work for it, then they are no longer my party, and I am once again, &quot;Politically Homeless&quot;.

Even if that happens, Eric Dondero can go to hell, and anyone who trusts him does so at their own peril.  Normally it&#039;s good to reserve judgement about someone, but just naming off the people Eric has defrauded or betrayed, it&#039;s pretty clear that he&#039;s either a sociopath, somehow mentally diseased, or a Republican agent provacateur.  Since he admits to being a &quot;Republican&quot; I&#039;d guess it&#039;s a mix of all three.

Best of luck to all who have an unhealthy interest in getting to the truth in this mess.  If my answering questions will help, then call me up 
907-250-5503.  I promise to be civil, and not to use the words that Eric Dondero makes me think of.  -Jake Witmer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;ll go through this and refute the lies in as much detail as possible, since the following post is Eric&#8217;s most grossly inaccurate post.</p>
<p>My comments will be in all caps for ease of separation from dondero&#8217;s comments, not for emphasis:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ahh, now we’re getting to the meat of the matter. Jake is even more disgruntled cause Shane Cory would not hire him as “Coordinator” for the West Virginia drive.&#8221;<br />
YES, BECAUSE DOING SO WOULD HAVE SAVED THE WV DRIVE, THAT ERIC WAS INTENTIONALLY SABOTAGING, BEHIND THE SCENES.  INTERESTINGLY, ERIC STAYED OUT OF WV, WHEN THEY DESPERATELY NEEDED PETITIONERS.  SHANE HAD NO EXPERIENCE WITH RUNNING A DRIVE, AND WAS LISTENING TO ERIC, (BECAUSE HE HAD NO EXPERIENCE RUNNING A PETITION DRIVE).</p>
<p>&#8220;Folks, Jake has been aiming to be a “Coordinator” for years in this business. UNTRUE, ALTHOUGH I SOMETIMES FILL THAT POSITION WHEN THERE&#8217;S THE NEED AND EXTRA MONEY IN IT FOR ME. That’s his lifelong dream. YOU IDIOTIC BASTARD, WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF ANY &#8220;LIFELONG DREAM&#8221;, MUCH LESS MINE?  THIS IS CLEARLY A COMMENT BASED ON ERIC EITHER BEING A COMPLETE MORON, OR ON KNOWING THAT THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. Problem is he has the social skills of an Aadvarrk. YOU&#8217;RE ONE TO TALK! AND YOU ALSO CAN&#8217;T SPELL ANYTHING RIGHT TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.  AMUSING FOR A SELF-DESCRIBED &#8220;LANGUAGE EXPERT&#8221;. The guy can’t seem to get along with anyone for any length of time. HMMM.  INTERESTING.  I GET ALONG WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WON&#8217;T TALK TO YOU ANY LONGER, LIKE BRUCE COHEN, OF THE CA LP, AND ANTHONY GARCIA OF THE TEXAS LP, AND ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE AK LP (MINUS YOUR OLD FRIEND KOHLHAAS, WHOM I HAVE SEVERED RELATIONS WITH, BECAUSE OF HIS DISHONEST ACTIONS).  &#8230;INTERESTINGLY, THEY ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO NEVER DEFRAUDED ME.  I COULD NAME A LONG LIST OF ADDITIONAL PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE NOT THE CROWD IN POWER AT THE NATIONAL LP HQ RIGHT NOW.</p>
<p>I USED TO GET ALONG WITH BILL REDPATH, BEFORE HE DECIDED NOT TO FIRE THE FRAUDSTERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2008 DRIVE.  MINUS OUR DISAGREEMENT ON WHETHER THAT WAS WISE, I THINK REDPATH IS STILL A COMPETENT AND HONEST GUY WHO SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE OF LOGIC AND REASON.  </p>
<p>SO WHOM DO I NOT GET ALONG WITH, ERIC?  THE INFANTILE SEAN HAUGH?  GUILTY AS CHARGED. I NEVER DID GET ALONG WITH HIM.  SHANE CORY?  I GOT ALONG WITH HIM BEFORE HE WAS PROMOTED BEYOND HIS LEVEL OF COMPETENCE (ALTHOUGH I HAD LITTLE TO DO WITH HIM.)  </p>
<p>Jake is a fantastic petitioner. THIS FOLLOWS THE PATTERN: JUST ENOUGH TRUTH SO THAT PEOPLE WILL BUY INTO THE LIE Head-to-head, when he’s motivated, he’s a better petitioner than me. EVERYONE IS, SINCE YOU LOVE TO BLATHER ABOUT HOW EVIL THE LEFTISTS ARE, TO FELLOW &#8220;REPUBLICANS&#8221; WHILE YOU WORK. But Coordinator material he is not. AS IF YOU WOULD KNOW, SINCE YOU&#8217;VE NEVER BEEN A COORDINATOR IN ANY CAPACITY.  I ALSO WILL POINT OUT THAT YOUR OLD BOSS, RON PAUL, (WHO FIRED YOU) HIRED ME IN IL, AND THEN REHIRED ME IN INDIANA IN 2007 AND 2008.</p>
<p>I’ve witnessed Jake trying to “Sub-Coordinate” some drives in Western States like Oregon. He was a disaster. YOU WITNESSED NO SUCH THING.  NOT TO MENTION, I MADE MONEY, AND PAUL JACOB DIDN&#8217;T TELL ME THERE WAS ANY PROBLEM (BEYOND A MINOR UNDESIRED RENTAL CAR EXPENSE FOR INSURANCE THAT INCREASED MY PER-SIG COST).  I THINK THAT OUR EMPLOYER WOULD HAVE COMPLAINED TO ME A BIT, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM.  A double disaster, cause he ended up spending 3/4ths of his time on the cell phone “coordinating” his underling petitioners off the street, and not gathering signatures himself. BUT THE NUMBERS I GOT WERE GOOD AND IT WAS WORTHWHILE TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, UNLESS I&#8217;M WRONG.  IF I&#8217;M WRONG, THEN P.J., PLEASE CALL ME AND SET ME STRAIGHT.  I ALSO BELIEVE I AND MY TEAM COLLECTED MORE SIGNATURES THAN ERIC DID ON THOSE DRIVES, ALTHOUGH I MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.  ALSO, IF I&#8217;M WRONG, THEN WHY WOULD THE PEOPLE IN MONTANA HAVE RECOMMENDED ME AS A PETITION COORDINATOR TO THEIR LOCAL VOLUNTEERS, WHEN I WAS WORKING FOR YOUR OLD BOSS, RON PAUL?</p>
<p>Jake, again, get back to being a great petitioner like you were before. WELL, I WOULD, BUT YOU&#8217;VE BEEN SPREADING LIES AND SLANDER ABOUT ME THAT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET EMPLOYED ON THOSE RARE OCCASIONS THAT I WANT TO PETITION/COORDINATE.  (THERE IS NO PROPER DISTINCTION BETWEEN &#8220;PETITIONER&#8221; AND &#8220;COORDINATOR&#8221; FOR THOSE WHO CAN DO BOTH, WHEN THE NEED EXISTS.  TITLES ARE USED TO PROTECT THOSE WHO ARE INCOMPETENT AT ONE OR THE OTHER.) And forget this “Coordinating” nonsense. You suck at it. GO TO HELL, ERIC, YOU LYIN&#8217; BACKSTABBER. You don’t suck at petitioning. LIKE YOU DO? We want the old Jake back. WHO IS &#8220;WE&#8221;?  OH YEAH, THE GUYS WHO GAVE YOU YOUR OPINION, THE GUYS WRITING YOUR PAYCHECK, SEAN HAUGH, SCOTT KOHLHAAS, SHANE CORY, RUSSELL VERNEY, &#8230;THE GUYS WHO HAVE GOTTEN THE LP INTO THIS MESS BY DEFRAUDING THE LONGTIME LIBERTARIAN ACTIVISTS (WHICH DOESN&#8217;T INCLUDE THE BIG &#8220;R&#8221; REPUBLICAN &#8216;AGENT PROVACATEUR&#8217; ERIC DONDERO)The libertarian movement desperately needs your significant petition gathering skills. BUT NOT ENOUGH THAT SEAN HAUGH DECIDED TO USE THEM IN CT, WHERE THEY WERE &#8220;DESPERATELY NEEDED&#8221;. APPARENTLY, AFTER HIS SUBORDINATE ASSISTANT (AND COMPETENCY-BASED SUPERIOR)&#8211;SCOTT KOHLHAAS&#8211; HIRED ME, AND THEN DODGED MY PHONE CALLS, LEAVING ME IN THE LURCH WITHOUT KNOWING IF I WAS HIRED OR NOT, WITH THE CLOCK TICKING ON MY RENTAL CAR. THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF ERIC&#8217;S STORY THAT DOESN&#8217;T ADD UP, BUT THAT IS DIFFICULT FOR THOSE UNINVOLVED WITH THE PETITIONING PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND. </p>
<p>IN SHORT, ERIC IS A LIAR AND DISINFORMATION PROPAGANDIST, PAR EXCELLENCE.  HE FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE DEN OF VIPERS THE LP&#8217;S UPPER MANAGEMENT HAS BECOME.</p>
<p>Note: I still have not been paid the $3,106.77 I am owed for my completed work in WV.  I&#8217;m going to suggest that my lawyer contact McCain&#8217;s lawyers tomorrow, and that they personally sue Shane Cory and Russell Verney.  If the LP doesn&#8217;t mind just openly defrauding the people who work for it, then they are no longer my party, and I am once again, &#8220;Politically Homeless&#8221;.</p>
<p>Even if that happens, Eric Dondero can go to hell, and anyone who trusts him does so at their own peril.  Normally it&#8217;s good to reserve judgement about someone, but just naming off the people Eric has defrauded or betrayed, it&#8217;s pretty clear that he&#8217;s either a sociopath, somehow mentally diseased, or a Republican agent provacateur.  Since he admits to being a &#8220;Republican&#8221; I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s a mix of all three.</p>
<p>Best of luck to all who have an unhealthy interest in getting to the truth in this mess.  If my answering questions will help, then call me up<br />
907-250-5503.  I promise to be civil, and not to use the words that Eric Dondero makes me think of.  -Jake Witmer</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Witmer</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/08/09/west-virginia-barr-falls-short-but-will-continue-gathering-signatures-to-support-court-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-495684</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Witmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many lies and misrepresentations in Eric&#039;s emails that they are difficult to deal with.

Here&#039;s one:
&quot;...such as the Ralph Nader Fucks screwing over us Libertarians on the petitioning trail time and time again. I realize that’s not a politically correct “gentlemanly” thing to say, but it’s the goddamned truth, and it needs to be out there.&quot;

No, Eric, it&#039;s more terrible advice from you to Shane Cory that caused West Virginia to fail, you backstabbing infiltrator to the LP.  I am fairly well convinced that the failure of WV was a combination of the lies you told to Shane, and Shane&#039;s incompetence.  It all comes into focus now.

Christina Tobin, the field coordinator for the Nader Campaign (and an IL LP member) offered weeks before the Barr campaign even started West Virginia to have her people carry Libertarian Party petitions, IF WE WOULD ALSO CARRY FOR NADER.  Taking her up on this offer WOULD HAVE CUT THE COST OF THE BARR WV DRIVE IN HALF, AND DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES WE GOT IN WV.  CORY (FOLLOWING DONDERO&#039;S RAVING LUNATIC ANTI-LEFTIST ADVICE) WAS AGAINST THE IDEA, AND LOST WEEKS OF NADER GATHERERS&#039; EFFORTS.  Thank you, ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

&quot;The Libertarian Party sure seems to have an extreme amount of petty arguments!&quot;

It may seem petty to you, but consider this: People make a lot of money petitioning.  As such, they may consider petitioning to be (one of) their careers.  As such, when someone is slandered, or defrauded and then slandered because they refuse to submit to injustice(doing work and not getting paid for it), that no longer becomes a petty argument, it becomes an argument of fraud or injustice, and as such, those who want such injustices out of our party are justified in defending their own self interest.

Eric is a time waster.  This email was ten times longer than it is now, just dealing with unending his stream of distortions.  If people want clarification of the events, please, call me, and ask questions.  cell: 907-250-5503.

To Ken Moellman: I dealt with Eric for several months before he betrayed me.  Count yourself lucky if you have not yet been betrayed by Eric.  If he ever has a use for you that is best served by your betrayal, you will get to see the other face of Eric Dondero (whose other face is apparent as a complete lunatic online).

People who I know have been betrayed by Eric Dondero:
1) Ron Paul (TX-R-14)
2) Bruce Cohen, CA LP
3) myself (AK, IL LP)
4) Bryan Thompson (IL petitioner)
5) Zach Keeton (Stomp the ban, Anchorage, AK)

Again: Eric&#039;s lies survive online because he types quickly and lies so much noone can keep up.  He has learned the most important lesson of an agent provacateur: lie a lot, and mix in just enough truth to get people to believe it.

I can back up everything I say under questioning:  907-250-5503</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many lies and misrepresentations in Eric&#8217;s emails that they are difficult to deal with.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;such as the Ralph Nader Fucks screwing over us Libertarians on the petitioning trail time and time again. I realize that’s not a politically correct “gentlemanly” thing to say, but it’s the goddamned truth, and it needs to be out there.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Eric, it&#8217;s more terrible advice from you to Shane Cory that caused West Virginia to fail, you backstabbing infiltrator to the LP.  I am fairly well convinced that the failure of WV was a combination of the lies you told to Shane, and Shane&#8217;s incompetence.  It all comes into focus now.</p>
<p>Christina Tobin, the field coordinator for the Nader Campaign (and an IL LP member) offered weeks before the Barr campaign even started West Virginia to have her people carry Libertarian Party petitions, IF WE WOULD ALSO CARRY FOR NADER.  Taking her up on this offer WOULD HAVE CUT THE COST OF THE BARR WV DRIVE IN HALF, AND DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES WE GOT IN WV.  CORY (FOLLOWING DONDERO&#8217;S RAVING LUNATIC ANTI-LEFTIST ADVICE) WAS AGAINST THE IDEA, AND LOST WEEKS OF NADER GATHERERS&#8217; EFFORTS.  Thank you, ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;The Libertarian Party sure seems to have an extreme amount of petty arguments!&#8221;</p>
<p>It may seem petty to you, but consider this: People make a lot of money petitioning.  As such, they may consider petitioning to be (one of) their careers.  As such, when someone is slandered, or defrauded and then slandered because they refuse to submit to injustice(doing work and not getting paid for it), that no longer becomes a petty argument, it becomes an argument of fraud or injustice, and as such, those who want such injustices out of our party are justified in defending their own self interest.</p>
<p>Eric is a time waster.  This email was ten times longer than it is now, just dealing with unending his stream of distortions.  If people want clarification of the events, please, call me, and ask questions.  cell: 907-250-5503.</p>
<p>To Ken Moellman: I dealt with Eric for several months before he betrayed me.  Count yourself lucky if you have not yet been betrayed by Eric.  If he ever has a use for you that is best served by your betrayal, you will get to see the other face of Eric Dondero (whose other face is apparent as a complete lunatic online).</p>
<p>People who I know have been betrayed by Eric Dondero:<br />
1) Ron Paul (TX-R-14)<br />
2) Bruce Cohen, CA LP<br />
3) myself (AK, IL LP)<br />
4) Bryan Thompson (IL petitioner)<br />
5) Zach Keeton (Stomp the ban, Anchorage, AK)</p>
<p>Again: Eric&#8217;s lies survive online because he types quickly and lies so much noone can keep up.  He has learned the most important lesson of an agent provacateur: lie a lot, and mix in just enough truth to get people to believe it.</p>
<p>I can back up everything I say under questioning:  907-250-5503</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Sawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Sawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Libertarian Party sure seems to have an extreme amount of petty arguments!</description>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric Dondero wrote:  &quot;Jakie Pooh references Gary Fincher. This is the same Fincher folks, who is an openly and bitter oponent of Bob Barr, and supporter of Renegade Libertarian Presidential candidate George Phillies. 

Wow! Any guesses as to why someone like Sean Haugh or anyone else at the National LP for that matter, would be a teensy weensy bit skeptical of working with Gary Fincher?&quot;

Um, Eric, you don&#039;t know me so you aren&#039;t entitled to put words in my mouth.  Just because I am skeptical of Bob Barr&#039;s libertarian &quot;reawakening&quot;, doesn&#039;t mean that I&#039;m an &quot;open and bitter opponent&quot;.  I&#039;d circulate to get him on the ballot (except that EXmight make Shane Cory look good, so why would I bother?).  I also don&#039;t know where you get that I&#039;m a supporter of George Phillies (as a presidential candidate), since I&#039;ve never publicly said yea or nay on the issue.  I voted for Ruwart on all six ballots in Denver.

As for your last paragraph, why WOULD anyone be a &quot;teensy&quot; bit skeptical of working with someone who didn&#039;t vote EXACTLY as they did at a political convention?  Well, golly gee, I may have almost all the answersw, but I guess you stumped me on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Dondero wrote:  &#8220;Jakie Pooh references Gary Fincher. This is the same Fincher folks, who is an openly and bitter oponent of Bob Barr, and supporter of Renegade Libertarian Presidential candidate George Phillies. </p>
<p>Wow! Any guesses as to why someone like Sean Haugh or anyone else at the National LP for that matter, would be a teensy weensy bit skeptical of working with Gary Fincher?&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, Eric, you don&#8217;t know me so you aren&#8217;t entitled to put words in my mouth.  Just because I am skeptical of Bob Barr&#8217;s libertarian &#8220;reawakening&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;m an &#8220;open and bitter opponent&#8221;.  I&#8217;d circulate to get him on the ballot (except that EXmight make Shane Cory look good, so why would I bother?).  I also don&#8217;t know where you get that I&#8217;m a supporter of George Phillies (as a presidential candidate), since I&#8217;ve never publicly said yea or nay on the issue.  I voted for Ruwart on all six ballots in Denver.</p>
<p>As for your last paragraph, why WOULD anyone be a &#8220;teensy&#8221; bit skeptical of working with someone who didn&#8217;t vote EXACTLY as they did at a political convention?  Well, golly gee, I may have almost all the answersw, but I guess you stumped me on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh huh. Disagreeing with E*** D****** R****** online is grounds for having my life endangered? 

Interesting. 

What goes around comes around, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh huh. Disagreeing with E*** D****** R****** online is grounds for having my life endangered? </p>
<p>Interesting. </p>
<p>What goes around comes around, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Moellman</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/08/09/west-virginia-barr-falls-short-but-will-continue-gathering-signatures-to-support-court-challenge/comment-page-2/#comment-471944</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Moellman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, well, my name finally came up in this argument. (Why do I keep coming up in controversies?), so I figure I&#039;ll chime in real fast.

Dondero and Arenza were in Cincy, so they were also getting some sigs for us here in KY while he was there, since most people around here in Northern Kentucky work in Cincy.

As I recall, Eric was then called away to the emergencies in NH, and then CT. Eric and I had a discussion on another matter on his way to help with the emergency in CT.

I have my own thoughts on the matter, but will not post them here.  

I will say this:  Guys, please, chill out.  We have enough enemies out there without eating our own.  

Instead of having the &quot;I&#039;m more libertarian than you&quot; penis-measuring contest, we should be out there supporting our party&#039;s candidate, if for no other reason than it will help bring people around to our (more pure) viewpoint (eventually).

Instead of having this discussion in public, I would submit that privately reaching out to those of us who are LP state chairs about these issues and letting us know would be a much better way to let the decision-makers know, without airing dirty laundry that most people (other than state chairs and other petitioners) couldn&#039;t give a damn about anyway.  

We&#039;re the &quot;party of principle&quot;, not the &quot;party of exposing ourselves to everyone regardless if they want to see&quot;.  (Though I still think I like TANSTAAFL best).

PS.  Barr on the ballot in KY; official today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, well, my name finally came up in this argument. (Why do I keep coming up in controversies?), so I figure I&#8217;ll chime in real fast.</p>
<p>Dondero and Arenza were in Cincy, so they were also getting some sigs for us here in KY while he was there, since most people around here in Northern Kentucky work in Cincy.</p>
<p>As I recall, Eric was then called away to the emergencies in NH, and then CT. Eric and I had a discussion on another matter on his way to help with the emergency in CT.</p>
<p>I have my own thoughts on the matter, but will not post them here.  </p>
<p>I will say this:  Guys, please, chill out.  We have enough enemies out there without eating our own.  </p>
<p>Instead of having the &#8220;I&#8217;m more libertarian than you&#8221; penis-measuring contest, we should be out there supporting our party&#8217;s candidate, if for no other reason than it will help bring people around to our (more pure) viewpoint (eventually).</p>
<p>Instead of having this discussion in public, I would submit that privately reaching out to those of us who are LP state chairs about these issues and letting us know would be a much better way to let the decision-makers know, without airing dirty laundry that most people (other than state chairs and other petitioners) couldn&#8217;t give a damn about anyway.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re the &#8220;party of principle&#8221;, not the &#8220;party of exposing ourselves to everyone regardless if they want to see&#8221;.  (Though I still think I like TANSTAAFL best).</p>
<p>PS.  Barr on the ballot in KY; official today.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Marston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Marston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric Dondero writes: &quot;So, I’m a “Mercenary petitioner” according to Jake. Really? Guess that explains why I’m one of only a tiny handful of Libertarian Party petitioners who refuses to carry the Ralph Nader/Green Party petitions, like in Connecticut, where I could make twice as much money.&quot;

Hmmmm  You refuse to carry Nader Petitions but demand Nader&#039;s Notaries hang around late into the evening long after their petitioners are finished for the day to notarize your petitions ? Sounds very self centered to me.

Come to think of it may be you are on the right team. Stay right where you are Eric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Dondero writes: &#8220;So, I’m a “Mercenary petitioner” according to Jake. Really? Guess that explains why I’m one of only a tiny handful of Libertarian Party petitioners who refuses to carry the Ralph Nader/Green Party petitions, like in Connecticut, where I could make twice as much money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmmm  You refuse to carry Nader Petitions but demand Nader&#8217;s Notaries hang around late into the evening long after their petitioners are finished for the day to notarize your petitions ? Sounds very self centered to me.</p>
<p>Come to think of it may be you are on the right team. Stay right where you are Eric.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I&#039;m a &quot;Mercenary petitioner&quot; according to Jake.  Really?  Guess that explains why I&#039;m one of only a tiny handful of Libertarian Party petitioners who refuses to carry the Ralph Nader/Green Party petitions, like in Connecticut, where I could make twice as much money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;m a &#8220;Mercenary petitioner&#8221; according to Jake.  Really?  Guess that explains why I&#8217;m one of only a tiny handful of Libertarian Party petitioners who refuses to carry the Ralph Nader/Green Party petitions, like in Connecticut, where I could make twice as much money.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, fuck you Jake.  I &quot;stayed out of West Virginia cause it was an obvious losing drive...&quot;

Are you fucking kidding me???

Tell ya what.  Call Ken Moellman up, State Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Kentucky.  He&#039;ll confirm, that Arenza and I were planning to go to WV immediately after our Cincy/Newport KY gig, but were diverted at the very last minute by LP National to help save New Hampshire.

I&#039;m a southern boy.  Take a guess which state I&#039;d rather spend my time in - no offense to New England - New Hampshire or West Virginia.  

In fact, towards the end of the NH effort when it started to look like we managed to save it, I asked National if I could go to WV.  They sent me to Connecticut instead, cause we had an even bigger mess there.  Fortunately, we saved that one too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, fuck you Jake.  I &#8220;stayed out of West Virginia cause it was an obvious losing drive&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you fucking kidding me???</p>
<p>Tell ya what.  Call Ken Moellman up, State Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Kentucky.  He&#8217;ll confirm, that Arenza and I were planning to go to WV immediately after our Cincy/Newport KY gig, but were diverted at the very last minute by LP National to help save New Hampshire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a southern boy.  Take a guess which state I&#8217;d rather spend my time in &#8211; no offense to New England &#8211; New Hampshire or West Virginia.  </p>
<p>In fact, towards the end of the NH effort when it started to look like we managed to save it, I asked National if I could go to WV.  They sent me to Connecticut instead, cause we had an even bigger mess there.  Fortunately, we saved that one too.</p>
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