Comments on: Keyes Wins California Lawsuit on Procedural Issues

By: Unemployed WASP

Unemployed WASP — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:32:59 +0000

“Iâ€™ve heard that the real AIP people are working to get Baldwin write-in access in California. If you are in California, write Baldwin in.”

That’s exactly what I did. I talk to people like myself who want to leave the Republican Party and join the ranks of the Constitution Party but the hijack ruined that for us. So now we stay Republicans until the CP can get on the ballot here in California and just write in Constitution Party candidates. We aren’t Mormon and want to be associated with a national CP in all 50 states growing in numbers and political power. All this splintering and bickering is self-defeating. CP all day in every state should be the goal.

By: Barry Kroeker

Barry Kroeker — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:12:23 +0000

Wow, it is really hard to tell the white hats from the black hats on this one!
I left the Constitution Party after the majority of national CP delegates, including founder Howard Phillips, abandoned the party’s pro-life ideals and sacrificed nearly a dozen Constitution Party state affiliates to support the Nevada IAP affiliate and its ‘abortion exceptions’ chairman Chris Hansen. At that time, Nevada was strongly supported by California AIP chair and smear-meister William Shearer. An interesting subtext in the whole controversy was the significant (disproportionate?) influence of the LDS church in the national Constitution Party hierarchy and western state leadership. Ever since, the CP has been doing damage control, trying to gain back lost ground, and fronting Baldwin and Castle (genuine patriots who nevertheless failed to get behind 2004 CP presidential candidate Michael Peroutka in his pro-life stand against the compromisers at the Tampa national convention back in 2006. (for the ‘official’ CP spin on the convention see Chairman Clymer’s article at http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=283. The other side is presented by John Lofton at http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=635)
Now it seems that the AIP takeover by the Alan Keyes faction was engineered at least in part by Ed Noonan, a long-time associate of Shearer, and yet another member of the Church of the Latter Day Saints.
But despite the LDS church position in support of limited abortion, the ‘new’ AIP declares a no-exceptions position in its party platform, and the new website (http://www.aipca.org/) is solidly conservative and theonomic, in marked contrast to Shearer’s libertarian orientation.
So what is really happening in California? Is God doing a good work there? Or are we just witnessing the destruction of another state third-party threat to the Republicrat duopoly?

By: John Galt

John Galt — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:09:42 +0000

I would be very worried this election year if I were an incumbent of either of the two major parties, especially in states where first-termers promised to end the war. In other words, voters will punish Democrats for their crawling cowardice before Bush. The Barrs, Pauls, Baldwins, McKinneys, Keyses and Naders will make bigger gains than ever before in American third party history. Don’t salivate, Republicans: we sickened independent, Constitutionalist, moderate, and Green-leaning aren’t going to take votes away from Democrats or from you, because you didn’t have them anyway.

The American people, despite what we’ve been brainwashed to believe about ourselves, deserve exactly what we’re getting: the dapper Barack O’Clinton and the diapered John McCalley.

By: Howard Roark

Howard Roark — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:26:15 +0000

You guys have done one heck of a job of limiting the options for Constitutionally minded voters here in California, by hijacking the AIP and nominating a neo-con and theocrat (Alan Keyes) as your presidential candidate. Your new platform is no better than the one behind the current Republican administration. The adoption of an interventionist foreign policy is most disturbing; in that it upholds the supremacy of the Federal Reserve to create money. Surely you could not expect an informed American citizenry to support the absurd idea of a perpetual war on “terrorism” without implementing the insidious inflation tax, a tax without representation.

Perhaps renaming the AIP to the Christian Zionist party is more appropriate. After all, the new platform is clearly beholden to internationalist bankers and lobbyists instead of the American people. With the inception of this new party, you have effectively nullified ANY new support that you could have garnered by the Ron Paul R3volution. You and your minions have hijacked the party at a most critical time, especially with the pretense that the honorable Chuck Baldwin would be our nominee. If you thought the original AIP was going nowhere, your new party will remain in the fringes of Californian 3rd party politics indefinitely if it is not restored and re-affiliated with the Constitution Party.

By: ACUTS

ACUTS — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:34:38 +0000

Alan Keyes is a globalist stooge.

The guy is out there siphoning votes from folks like Baldwin, because you would never want someone like Baldwin to get national name recognition.

Why?

Oh I dunno, maybe because the status quo is good business and people like Keyes need to learn, not only has there time passed, but they are actually a part of the system.

We, the people who love Liberty are making a stand, the R3VOLUTION! continues.

I hope Baldwin can get on the CA ballot.

I will be casting mine in FL…

By: Jim R

Jim R — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:37:42 +0000

It doesn’t matter whether it would be silly for Obama not to be the Democrat nominee in California.

The California constitution requires that Clinton be the Democrat nominee. This was approved by the voters in 2004.

By: Phil Sawyer

Phil Sawyer — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:01:05 +0000

Jeff Becker Says:
August 27th, 2008 at 4:13 am IMHO, it is clearly now time for the Baldwin AIP to immediately begin work on establishing the â€œConstitution Party of Californiaâ€. Purchase the voter registration list for the AIP and mail them all the info on the â€œnewâ€ (name change) party, and strategy for petitioning for 2012 ballot access.
… [snip] …

Phil Sawyer responds:

There still would be nothing to prevent the newly minted Constitution Party of California from changing its own constitution and seceding from the national party at some time in the future.

By: B-rad

B-rad — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:03:52 +0000

“There were states at the convention that were won by Keyes, not Baldwin.”

That should be singular, as in ‘state’, and that ‘state’ was CA.

By: Matt L.

Matt L. — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:57:08 +0000

Keyes is a fraud. So far, he has: Embezzled money from his campaign fund(1992), moved halfway across the country to replace a newly withdrawn GOP candidate(2004),denounced both the GOP and the CP because he lost in their primary and convention, respectively, and couldn’t claim media bias(2008) and continued as a declared candidate, despite the fact that he last campaigned in 3/08. As if that weren’t bad enough, he routinely takes a holier-than-thou approach on the campaign trail. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

By: Red Phillips

Red Phillips — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:43:58 +0000

Keyes protested before the CP convention that he was not a neocon, and was not a knee-jerk interventionist. But regarding the recent Russia/Georgia conflict is there any doubt where he came down? Fear mongering about Russia right along with his neocon buddies. Can’t say I’m shocked. He wants to add Georgia to NATO and feels we need to protect Europe from the Russian Bear, but of course he is not an interventionist. What a liar. He was, is and always will be a reckless hyper-interventionist.