= Too bad because my source is a leader in the CP.

I was there, you weren’t. And I can tell you first hand that there were no anti-Mormon sentiments being publicly articulated.

= I can tell you the Michigan affiliate threated to leave if Howard brought up the matter of Tampa and abortion one more time.

In fact, as I said, there were far more divisions within the party over whether to nominate Alan Keyes than anything else. Squabbles over religion didn’t take place, especially since virtually all of the theonomists have left the party.

= I wasn’t talking about anti-Mormonism at the last nat. convention, but within the Montana CP itself, and at during the 2006 Tampa matter. Weren’t you listening- not you were not.

Thank God those morons left!

Tampa is history, pal. Get over it.

= Tell that to the Montana CP!

The only ones bringing up religion at this point are insecure Mormons like yourself who have nothing else to harp about.

= Then why is Johnathan Martin bringing it up? My you are a poor listener.

The real threats to our party are closet-neocons like Noonan, not these phantam anti-Mormons you keep bringing up.

= And the dogmatic morons that brown-nosed the anti-Mormons insisting we trust the Montana CP for ballot access.

Plus, you’re making two huge and incorrect assumptions about those who voted for disaffiliation. First, not everyone who supported disaffiliation left the party (that includes yours truly).

= And Baldwin is speaking in Vegas on the 20th with the IAP in attendence; whats your point?

Second, not everyone who supported disaffiliation is anti-Mormon.

= But the majorty was.

Nobody was proposing, for example, that the Utah CP be disaffiliated.

= Nevada was step 1, after all, there was Chris Hansen that was telling off the nutjobs.
Utah would’ve been next.

I think it’s grossly unfair to assume that anyone who wanted Nevada out is an anti-Mormon fanatic.

= Why is the Montana CP doing a 180? All of a sudden. Perhaps it could be because of all those Pro-Mormon speeches given recently by Baldwin?

The reason I don’t buy your pet theory about the Montana CP is because Baldwin was already friendly toward Mormons during his convention speeches, long before the Montana CP decided to go down this route.

= Apparently he got more friendlier with them recently. Then we hear that Johnathan Martin wants to revisit the Tampa matter all of a sudden.

If they choose to nominate Keyes, then they’ll only be emulating CA and CO. Oregon also disaffilated, yet Mary Staret is still supporting the national party as well as the Baldwin campaign.

= And Oregon VOTED to put Baldwin on the ballot at their state convention. Keyes is way too moderate for the Montana people.

In fact, as I recall from what I saw at Kansas City, there were plenty of people who supported disaffiliation who overwhelmingly supported Baldwin. Sorry, but your theory doesn’t add up.

= And yet the Montana people do a 180 after voting for Baldwin there.

My apologies for saying that you live in CA. I must have confused you with someone else.

= You certainly have.

Nevertheless, the AIP shares far more of the blame because they do in fact claim to be an official affiliate of the CP in contrast to Montana.

= The Jim King faction does.

Moreover, the 300,000+ registered members of the AIP are a farce. People mistakenly assume that “American Independent” means “Independent” when they register to vote, thus inflating the actual numbers.

= Maybe so in Cali, but not in the Silver state.

Tampa is history, pal. Get over it. The only ones bringing up religion at this point are insecure Mormons like yourself who have nothing else to harp about. The real threats to our party are closet-neocons like Noonan, not these phantam anti-Mormons you keep bringing up.

Plus, you’re making two huge and incorrect assumptions about those who voted for disaffiliation. First, not everyone who supported disaffiliation left the party (that includes yours truly). Second, not everyone who supported disaffiliation is anti-Mormon. Nobody was proposing, for example, that the Utah CP be disaffiliated. I think it’s grossly unfair to assume that anyone who wanted Nevada out is an anti-Mormon fanatic.

The reason I don’t buy your pet theory about the Montana CP is because Baldwin was already friendly toward Mormons during his convention speeches, long before the Montana CP decided to go down this route. If they choose to nominate Keyes, then they’ll only be emulating CA and CO. Oregon also disaffilated, yet Mary Staret is still supporting the national party as well as the Baldwin campaign. In fact, as I recall from what I saw at Kansas City, there were plenty of people who supported disaffiliation who overwhelmingly supported Baldwin. Sorry, but your theory doesn’t add up.

My apologies for saying that you live in CA. I must have confused you with someone else. Nevertheless, the AIP shares far more of the blame because they do in fact claim to be an official affiliate of the CP in contrast to Montana. Moreover, the 300,000+ registered members of the AIP are a farce. People mistakenly assume that “American Independent” means “Independent” when they register to vote, thus inflating the actual numbers.

= Are you sure? I heard they’ll be putting somebody else on the ballot that can be considered a rival to Chuck.

Moreover, your argument makes no sense given the fact that Baldwin voted for disaffiliating the Nevada IAP.

= And yet he’s still in the CP and his state affiliate voted against disaffiliation from the CP. He’s also going to be speaking in Vegas, with a IAP crowd present.

If it’s really some kind of anti-Mormon conspiracy as you say, then why wouldn’t they rally behind him especially in light of the fact that Ed Noonan isn’t backing him?

= Chuck Baldwin has been saying positive things about Mormons lately, funny how all of a sudden the Montana CP does a 180 on having him on their ballot.
I smell a rat.

Were you at Kansas City, Cody? Did you see for yourself what took place?

= A realible source that was there told me what happened.

There were Keyes supporters in *both* the California and Montana delegations. This has nothing to do with hatred of Mormons or anything like that.

= The Tampa matter was a anti-Mormon conspiracy, period; I’ve read all the stuff on TAV, AND the bigoted postings of the people that pushed to kick out Nevada.
And suddenly the Montana CP chair wants to keep Baldwin of the ballot and bringing up the Tampa matter as a excuse- right after Baldwin came out with his “What would a Baldwin Administration look like?” speech.

= No need to connect the dots.

Before throwing stones at other state affiliates, you should first clean up your own rebellious state party in California.

= I live in Nevada, what are you talking about?

I personally think the AIP should be disaffiliated–not for anyone being a Mormon–but because they’ve seriously damaged the national party with this little stunt.

= Better to disaffiliate Ed Noonan from the AIP, then kick out a party that makes up 75% of CP registered voters.

= BTW, Ed and a small group of people are doing this, the majority of the AIP state committee is opposed to Ed and his actions.

Were you at Kansas City, Cody? Did you see for yourself what took place? There were Keyes supporters in *both* the California and Montana delegations. This has nothing to do with hatred of Mormons or anything like that. Before throwing stones at other state affiliates, you should first clean up your own rebellious state party in California. I personally think the AIP should be disaffiliated–not for anyone being a Mormon–but because they’ve seriously damaged the national party with this little stunt.

The deadline for filing as a write-in is not until October.