Comments on: Montana Constitution Party Submits Presidential Electors Pledged to Ron Paul and Michael Peroutka http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:59:19 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Liberty Campaigner Mike! http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-2/#comment-541025 Liberty Campaigner Mike! Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:55:01 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-541025 I have marched for Ron Paul in D.C., I have rallied for Ron Paul at the Rally for the Republic, I have introduced a true hero to many who bring up the issue of politics, and the opposition to the recent bailout. I agree 100% with Ron Paul's values, and I will be proud to write his name on my Pennsylvania ballot! I am done with voting for the two evils! We need real change, dramatic change, and restoration of our constitutional values. Ron Paul has opened my eyes to the reality of our fixed election process, and I will support Dr. Paul even after the last vote is cast. I believe in miracles, and remain optimistic about our future. Despite the half of a million dollar party AIG held with our taxpaying bailout dollars-I know that Ron Paul is doing his best to defend us. He is one man doing the impossible. The more we realize this, the more we can learn how to defend our rights, and prevent future political cons-jobs. Wake up America! Join the revolution before it's too late. Take bake your country from special, and foreign interest! Liberty Campaigner, Mike I have marched for Ron Paul in D.C., I have rallied for Ron Paul at the Rally for the Republic, I have introduced a true hero to many who bring up the issue of politics, and the opposition to the recent bailout. I agree 100% with Ron Paul’s values, and I will be proud to write his name on my Pennsylvania ballot! I am done with voting for the two evils! We need real change, dramatic change, and restoration of our constitutional values. Ron Paul has opened my eyes to the reality of our fixed election process, and I will support Dr. Paul even after the last vote is cast. I believe in miracles, and remain optimistic about our future. Despite the half of a million dollar party AIG held with our taxpaying bailout dollars-I know that Ron Paul is doing his best to defend us. He is one man doing the impossible. The more we realize this, the more we can learn how to defend our rights, and prevent future political cons-jobs. Wake up America! Join the revolution before it’s too late. Take bake your country from special, and foreign interest!

Liberty Campaigner,

Mike

]]> By: Yosemite1967 http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-2/#comment-540920 Yosemite1967 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:47:20 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-540920 RRHeustisJr, if a doctor removes an unborn baby that is developing in the mother's fallopian tube, thereby causing its death, should he be punished? RRHeustisJr, if a doctor removes an unborn baby that is developing in the mother’s fallopian tube, thereby causing its death, should he be punished?

]]> By: Angela Wittman http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-2/#comment-506525 Angela Wittman Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:09:31 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-506525 Cody Quirk says: "And those new parties are doing better then the old ones. Illinois is especially doing better without Angela Wittman." Dear Mr. Quirk, I am so flattered to have left such an impression upon you that I am often in your thoughts... Now, please tell us exactly what the Constitution Party of IL is doing and how is it better than when I belonged? Thank you. Cody Quirk says: “And those new parties are doing better then the old ones. Illinois is especially doing better without Angela Wittman.”

Dear Mr. Quirk,

I am so flattered to have left such an impression upon you that I am often in your thoughts… Now, please tell us exactly what the Constitution Party of IL is doing and how is it better than when I belonged? Thank you.

]]> By: RRHeustisJr http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-2/#comment-505465 RRHeustisJr Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:29:36 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-505465 My above comments should be amended as follows: "atheist pro-life" should be amended to "pro-abortion atheist". The main point though remains the same. My above comments should be amended as follows:

“atheist pro-life” should be amended to “pro-abortion atheist”.

The main point though remains the same.

]]> By: Hugh Jass http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-2/#comment-505459 Hugh Jass Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:17:14 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-505459 I must say, even though the Montana CP is wrong with regard to self-defense, this was an excellent political move on their part, and will likely improve the chances of CP candidates down the ballot in that state. I must say, even though the Montana CP is wrong with regard to self-defense, this was an excellent political move on their part, and will likely improve the chances of CP candidates down the ballot in that state.

]]> By: Hugh Jass http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-2/#comment-505458 Hugh Jass Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:15:34 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-505458 Still, even with the decreased participation in the primary and the inevitability of McCain's victory, Paul still managed to get 20,000 votes, which was several times the total third party showing in Montana 2004 put together. As of 2004, 20,000 votes will get Paul 5% of the vote. I wouldn't be surprised to find several anti-McCain Republicans, anti-war Democrats, and third-party members voting for Paul as well. Still, even with the decreased participation in the primary and the inevitability of McCain’s victory, Paul still managed to get 20,000 votes, which was several times the total third party showing in Montana 2004 put together. As of 2004, 20,000 votes will get Paul 5% of the vote. I wouldn’t be surprised to find several anti-McCain Republicans, anti-war Democrats, and third-party members voting for Paul as well.

]]> By: RRHeustisJr http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-2/#comment-505453 RRHeustisJr Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:12:33 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-505453 Gary Odom opines: <i>I do wonder how Mr. Martin of Montana reconciles his willingness to place Ron Paul ... on the ballot with the fact that there are many, many pro-abortion atheists across the country who vigourously support Dr. Paul. If one Mormon chairman in Nevada (who is, by the way, no longer the Nevada state chairman) supposedly having less than adeqaute pro-life qualifications made the whole national CP unpallatible for him, how does he explain his new association with all of these “evil” people who support Ron Paul?</i> Mr. Odom is not serious, is he? Does Mr. Odom really believe that by placing a certain candidate on the ballot, the Montana CP is actually "associating" with any and all supporters of that particular candidate? How absurd. Placing a candidate on a ballot, a formal association does not one make. The Montana CP did not desire to be officially affiliated with any national party that is made up of state organizations that elect and prefer pro-abortion state officers and candidates, and therefore it chose to disaffiliate itself from the National party. Mr. Odom now attempts to mischaracterize Montana's choice of placing Ron Paul on the ballot as somehow being akin to entering into a new formal association with all of those atheist pro-life advocates (whoever they are) and others. Ludicrous. Even after placing Paul on the ballot, the CP Montana is a totally independent state party organization. It has no obligation whatsoever to the national CP. It is not associated or affiliated in any way with any other organization, including any atheist pro-life groups or peoples. Gary Odom opines:
I do wonder how Mr. Martin of Montana reconciles his willingness to place Ron Paul … on the ballot with the fact that there are many, many pro-abortion atheists across the country who vigourously support Dr. Paul. If one Mormon chairman in Nevada (who is, by the way, no longer the Nevada state chairman) supposedly having less than adeqaute pro-life qualifications made the whole national CP unpallatible for him, how does he explain his new association with all of these “evil” people who support Ron Paul?

Mr. Odom is not serious, is he?

Does Mr. Odom really believe that by placing a certain candidate on the ballot, the Montana CP is actually “associating” with any and all supporters of that particular candidate? How absurd.

Placing a candidate on a ballot, a formal association does not one make.

The Montana CP did not desire to be officially affiliated with any national party that is made up of state organizations that elect and prefer pro-abortion state officers and candidates, and therefore it chose to disaffiliate itself from the National party.

Mr. Odom now attempts to mischaracterize Montana’s choice of placing Ron Paul on the ballot as somehow being akin to entering into a new formal association with all of those atheist pro-life advocates (whoever they are) and others.

Ludicrous.

Even after placing Paul on the ballot, the CP Montana is a totally independent state party organization. It has no obligation whatsoever to the national CP. It is not associated or affiliated in any way with any other organization, including any atheist pro-life groups or peoples.

]]> By: Allen http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-1/#comment-505447 Allen Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:54:02 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-505447 The Montana presidential primary didn't count, but it was a two way race with McCain. The Montana presidential primary didn’t count, but it was a two way race with McCain.

]]> By: Hugh Jass http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-1/#comment-504997 Hugh Jass Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:34:03 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-504997 Don't forget, Paul actually beat McCain in the Montana caucuses, and got 20% in the state primary. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul got 10% in Montana, and that would certainly tip its 3 electoral vote to Obama. Don’t forget, Paul actually beat McCain in the Montana caucuses, and got 20% in the state primary. I wouldn’t be surprised if Paul got 10% in Montana, and that would certainly tip its 3 electoral vote to Obama.

]]> By: svf http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/05/montana-constitution-party-submits-presidential-electors-pledged-to-ron-paul-and-michael-peroutka/comment-page-1/#comment-504874 svf Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:47:07 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3917#comment-504874 unproductive, divisive madness...... (see also: Louisiana) unproductive, divisive madness…… (see also: Louisiana)

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