Comments on: Baldwin Will be on Ballot for 59.8% of Voters http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:30:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=2042 By: jean allen http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-559293 jean allen Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:39:54 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-559293 I resent the comments of Greg (#4). He says that Baldwin is far superior to Peroutka and then makes fun of Peroutka's name. Peroutka's integrity is solid as he has never been caught in a lie. Some of the original CP folk who helped form the party would stand with Peroutka. To make fun of his name is cruel and low-down. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the name. What kind of person would babble off such nonsense? I resent the comments of Greg (#4). He says that Baldwin is far superior to Peroutka and then makes fun of Peroutka’s name.
Peroutka’s integrity is solid as he has never been caught in a lie. Some of the original CP folk who helped form the party would stand with Peroutka. To make fun of his name is cruel and low-down. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the name. What kind of person would babble off such nonsense?

]]> By: Tom Yager http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-516679 Tom Yager Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:37:29 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-516679 "what about rigged national nominating conventions?" Anyone can claim that any convention is rigged. There are plenty of lies that continue to be spread around by the most unprincipled and dishonest of Nader's supporters (such as yourself) about how the Green Party convention was "rigged" in 2004. Had Nader sought our nomination and campaigned for it half as hard as Cobb, he would have won easily. “what about rigged national nominating conventions?”

Anyone can claim that any convention is rigged. There are plenty of lies that continue to be spread around by the most unprincipled and dishonest of Nader’s supporters (such as yourself) about how the Green Party convention was “rigged” in 2004. Had Nader sought our nomination and campaigned for it half as hard as Cobb, he would have won easily.

]]> By: joell http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-516450 joell Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:54:32 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-516450 #16 "the value of having national nominating conventions" what about rigged national nominating conventions? #16
“the value of having national nominating conventions”

what about rigged national nominating conventions?

]]> By: Tom Yager http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-516183 Tom Yager Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:29:48 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-516183 "the same people complaining would be celebrating if baldwin had done the same thing to keys" I wouldn't. I think that it's wrong for candidates who lose a party's nomination to try to poach ballot lines, regardless of who does it. My question about the value of having national nominating conventions if the nominee has to spend his or her time begging state parties to put him or her on the ballot remains ignored. I am not surprised. “the same people complaining would be celebrating if baldwin had done the same thing to keys”

I wouldn’t. I think that it’s wrong for candidates who lose a party’s nomination to try to poach ballot lines, regardless of who does it.

My question about the value of having national nominating conventions if the nominee has to spend his or her time begging state parties to put him or her on the ballot remains ignored. I am not surprised.

]]> By: joell http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-516109 joell Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:17:54 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-516109 "What totally glib non-answers. Do you think that what Keyes did was OK because he won?" the same people complaining would be celebrating if baldwin had done the same thing to keys “What totally glib non-answers. Do you think that what Keyes did was OK because he won?”

the same people complaining would be celebrating if baldwin had done the same thing to keys

]]> By: Tom Yager http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-515673 Tom Yager Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:32:12 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-515673 Oops, sorry. I meant to post #13 under my own name. Oops, sorry. I meant to post #13 under my own name.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-515668 anonymous Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:30:17 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-515668 joell Says: September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am “Too bad for Chuck that Noonan and Keyes hijacked the AIP away or that number would look a lot better.” the victimization mentality; its always someone else’s fault Phil Sawyer adds: You are correct, Joell. There will always be someone on the losing side to say that the game was not played fairly. What totally glib non-answers. Do you think that what Keyes did was OK because he won? Suppose Peace and Freedom becomes a multi-state party in the years to come. Let's say that your candidate wins the nomination fair and square in 2012, but one of the state parties decides to blow off the results and keeps him off the ballot. Will you be cool with that? Again, I ask: What is the point of even having national nominating conventions if the winner has to spend his or her time begging state parties to put him or her on the ballot? It is beyond absurd to have a second set of state "caucuses" and "conventions" after the national convention is settled. joell Says:
September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am
“Too bad for Chuck that Noonan and Keyes hijacked the AIP away or that number would look a lot better.”

the victimization mentality; its always someone else’s fault

Phil Sawyer adds: You are correct, Joell. There will always be someone on the losing side to say that the game was not played fairly.

What totally glib non-answers. Do you think that what Keyes did was OK because he won?

Suppose Peace and Freedom becomes a multi-state party in the years to come. Let’s say that your candidate wins the nomination fair and square in 2012, but one of the state parties decides to blow off the results and keeps him off the ballot. Will you be cool with that?

Again, I ask: What is the point of even having national nominating conventions if the winner has to spend his or her time begging state parties to put him or her on the ballot? It is beyond absurd to have a second set of state “caucuses” and “conventions” after the national convention is settled.

]]> By: Phil Sawyer http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-515602 Phil Sawyer Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:37:12 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-515602 joell Says: September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am “Too bad for Chuck that Noonan and Keyes hijacked the AIP away or that number would look a lot better.” the victimization mentality; its always someone else’s fault Phil Sawyer adds: You are correct, Joell. There will always be someone on the losing side to say that the game was not played fairly. joell Says:
September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am
“Too bad for Chuck that Noonan and Keyes hijacked the AIP away or that number would look a lot better.”

the victimization mentality; its always someone else’s fault

Phil Sawyer adds: You are correct, Joell. There will always be someone on the losing side to say that the game was not played fairly.

]]> By: Hugh Jass http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-515199 Hugh Jass Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:08:19 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-515199 I predict that, despite not being on the ballot in California, Texas, Pennsylvania, Montana, etc., Baldwin will still get about 200,000-300,000 votes, simply by capitalizing on Barr's middle finger to the r3VOLution. I predict that, despite not being on the ballot in California, Texas, Pennsylvania, Montana, etc., Baldwin will still get about 200,000-300,000 votes, simply by capitalizing on Barr’s middle finger to the r3VOLution.

]]> By: Craig M. http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/09/15/baldwin-will-be-on-ballot-for-598-of-voters/comment-page-1/#comment-515153 Craig M. Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:55:43 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=3972#comment-515153 Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Pensylvania were attainable and hurt the overall totals. The other states need serious ballot access law changes. Members of third parties should inundate the state houses of Georgia, N.C., Indiana, Texas, Arizona, and California with letters regarding changing the ballot access laws to reflect a more reasonable amount of signatures needed. It is understandable that they don't want dozens of candidates per office but a mere 10,000-12,000 signature requirement should prevent that from occurring. Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Pensylvania were attainable and hurt the overall totals. The other states need serious ballot access law changes. Members of third parties should inundate the state houses of Georgia, N.C., Indiana, Texas, Arizona, and California with letters regarding changing the ballot access laws to reflect a more reasonable amount of signatures needed. It is understandable that they don’t want dozens of candidates per office but a mere 10,000-12,000 signature requirement should prevent that from occurring.

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