Gary Fincher (who I know well)”

Who is this? Is this Nick Youngers?

Gary Fincher (who I know well) and Jake Whitmer(whom I don’t know personally, unless that’s an alias) are experienced and great petitioners. You should have been hired and kept working on all the LP petition drives. It is no doubt true, as I keep posting, that it was the ballot drive management (either in the field, at the main office, or both) that caused this year’s ballot status disaster. The people who were running these drives (Haha boy or whoever) should resign or be fired, should REPAY the LP and the Barr campaign for the total cost of the failed ballot drives, as a matter of personal honor, and should never run any such efforts again.

I’m sure you are correct that if we had had Fincher and Witmer collecting in CT and ME we would have not failed in those states (assuming we had someone in the field who knew how to count sigs and estimate validity correctly. It sounds like we didn’t.)

But, you guys are wrong about the policy on working with other parties.

While you do have the RIGHT to work for as many groups as you care to, and help even the most evil candidates get on the ballot, such actions have proven dangerous in the past, have kept the LP off many state ballots, and take resources away from the LP.

The correct LP policy would be to require its paid petitioners to work exclusively for the LP during the time of their employment. Petitioners who intend to double board for other parties should not be hired.

It’s too bad the LP and/or Barr campaign lets petty, personal pecadillos prevent proven, professional, party petitioners from practicing their profession in promoting the ballot status of the Party of Principle.

They have collected sigs as an exchange and then thrown them away rather than deliver.

They have agreed to swap delivery town by town, but while the LP drivers delivered the other party’s sigs, the other party did not deliver the LP sigs.

They have collected good sigs on their own petitions, but had invalid signers sign the LP petitions. And thus, everyone got to sign once.”

I’ve NEVER heard of anyone from the Ralph Nader campaign or the Constitution Party doing anything like this.

Also, petitioners are independent contractors and should be able to negotiate with other parties themselves if they want to carry their petitions. The only time that this should be barred would be if there is a state law that prohibits people from signing and/or gathering signatures on more than one petition.

Isn’t it the other way around, nowadays (although I really, really wish I could agree with you, but can’t)?

As far as I know, Nader and the Constitution Party – even the Socialist Party – treats their contractors honorably, pays their bills on time, and generally lives up to their bargains.

The LP? Not so much.

One of them was Jake Witmer who was actually about to drive from West Virginia to Connecticut. Sean the Haha boy blocked him for the “horrible offense” of Jake having responded to an unfounded personal attack that was launched against him by Shane Cory. Jake is a vetran petitioner who has worked Connecticut before and is also an actual Libertarian activist.

The other Libertarian petitioner was Gary Fincher who was actually in Massachusetts and then Rhode Island when the LP ballot access petition drive in Connecticut was happening. Gary has been a Libertarian activist since 1989 and a Libertarian petitioner since 1991 and is one of the top petitioners in the country. Gary has petitioned in Connecticut 5 times and was more than capable of being the difference maker in Connecticut. Sean the Haha boy actually knew that Gary was in New England because Gary gathered 2,000 signatures for Libertarian Party ballot access in Massachusetts. Gary had petitioned in Massachusetts on many occassions and was personally invited to Massachusetts by the State Chair of the Massachusetts LP, George Phillies. What was Sean Haugh’s reaction when he found out that long time Libertarian petitioner Gary Fincher had collected 2,000 signatures for LP ballot access in Massachusetts? Sean the Haha boy ILLEGALLY tried to get Carol McMahon of the Massachusetts LP to “BURN (quite literally)” the signatures collected by Mr. Fincher, and Sean the Haha boy even went so far as to say that the signatures should be burned “whether they had been paid for or not,” thus admitting that he had no problem defrauding Libertarian Party donors and/or Mr. Fincher. Also, it should be that in Massachusetts it actually says on the petitions that anyone who alters, defaces, destroys, or supresses a petition is guilty of a crime which carries fines of up to $1,000 and prison time of up to 1 year. Fortunately George Phillies, Carol McMahon, and other members of the Massachusetts LP were not deranged like Sean the Haha boy so the signatures did not get burned and Mr. Fincher was paid in full by the Massachusetts LP. Oh, and it turned out that the validity on these signatures collected by Mr. Fincher was high, unlike the low validity on the signatures collected by the mercenary petitioners that Sean the Haha boy hired for the Connecticut LP drive. After the petition burning scandal, Gary remained in New England where he gathered petition signatures for the Constitution Party. I personally called up Bill Redpath (whom Gary has known since 1991) 3 or 4 times to let him know that Gary was in New England and was ready, willing, and able to petition for the Libertarian Party in Rhode Island, Connecticut, and/or Maine (another state where the LP ended up failing and where Gary has extensive petitioning expierence). I suppose that Sean the Haha boy’s irrational temper tantrum was more important than getting the jobs done right, because Gary never got called.

Myself and another Libertarian petitioner named Mark were working on LP ballot access in the Northeast earlier this year and we ended up leaving that area because Sean the Haha boy was trying to lower our pay. This was at the same that Sean the Haha boy was paying out higher rates to mercenary petitioners who were producing LOWER validity. We could have bailed out the ballot drives in New England had Haha boy not screwed around with us earlier this year.

No, this is NOT the fault of George Phillies, in any way, shape, form or fashion.

This is purely and squarely the fault of Sean Haugh.

Haugh didn’t TRY to succeed, then failed; Haugh NEVER tried to succeed. He had valuable resources at his disposal, which he scoffed at, at the expense of the entire state parties of CT, MA, ME, WV and DC, to name but a few.

It’s malfeasance at its very worst.

If I had been in Connecticut, I could have picked up the 500 valid signatures in 3-4 days, and I’m probably the most prolific LP petitioner in the history of CT petition drives (unless I stand corrected with new information to the contrary).

if you’re this good, you need to start a business and make millions

That’s a good idea, but I started another business instead. It’s been operating for many years, has an amazing ROI and is worknig out quite a bit better and is less stressful than ballot drives would be as a business.

if you’re this good, you need to start a business and make millions