Comments on: U.S. District Court Rules that Phil Berg Does Not Have Standing to Prevent Barack Obama from Running

By: Tom, MI

Tom, MI — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:27:39 +0000

Has this country gone nuts, whats next the Supreme Courts decides that can overrule Wade vs Roe or anything else!! The Constitution is the Constitution Make Obama prove his is truly a US Citizen, Period!!! No loop holes, No Bullshit!!! I dont care who’s President No of them can do anything and none of them or the Congress do anything that is right for the US or its Citizens. The country should stand up FIRE all of them and start over.

By: Tom from Florida

Tom from Florida — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:02:00 +0000

We donâ€™t have standing? What the justices fail to remember is that the â€œcitizensâ€ they are talking about are their bosses. We pay their salaries. If the boss asks their worker to make sure the customers they are serving meet the government laws (ex. old enough to buy beer) then that is what they need to do. If not they will be fired.
Fired is exactly what we need to do with these arrogant do nothings.

By: Nathan B

Nathan B — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:17:48 +0000

The difference being simply put, “Certificate” and “Certification” Look up the words in Webster. a “Certificate of Live Birth” is issued at the Hospital at the time of Birth. It records all of the vital information from both mother and father, delivering doctor, nationalities of parents and more. It also often has a hand and footprint from the child for further identification. Mine does, does yours? Perhaps many of you have never actually seen your original “Vault Copy” I have mine. “Certification of Live Birth” is a post birth copy usually ordered as a replacement that only confirms that a person was legitimately born on a specific date and time. Usually to prove age and name authenticity. Most government agencies will accept it because the employees most often themselves don’t know the difference. Ask any identity theft expert how easy it is to duplicate, and they will almost invariably point to our illegal alien population as proof. The “Vault copy” will say “Certificate” and have all of the pertinent information like exactly what city and hospital the child was born as well as the doctors name who dilivered the child and his signature as well as witness names and signatures. The post birth (after the fact) official document will always say “Certification” and will not contain pertinent information such as the delivering Doctors name and signatures and witness names and signatures. (Redundant) It is for this reason the controversy survives as well as the Lawsuits. Provide the original and let all Americans Judge for themselves. If he has one he is not showing it. Which begs the question “Why”? If he actually was born in a hospital in Hawaii, why does he not prove it by releasing the document? I myself question the “Why”, not because I don’t like Obama, but because I believe in the Constitution Of the United States of America. The very document that we all take literally, and that brought us all into being who and what we are today.

By: democrats suck

democrats suck — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:13:30 +0000

Proof I DID my research: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_a_certificate_of_live_birth_the_same_as_a_birth_certificate_in_Florida_A_friend_may_be_adopted

Try doing some reading yourself

By: democrats suck

democrats suck — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:11:39 +0000

Actually,”bill,” A certificate of live birth is not the same by any means… Want proof? Take your Certificate of live birth and try to get a passport, or a drivers license for that matter. When they turn your ignorant, democratic ass away- then you will see who the real fool is.

By: Bill Nichols

Bill Nichols — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:51:38 +0000

Per Abbie: “THAT IS A CETIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH – NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE! – Do some research.”

Uh, may want to do some yourself, Abbie. “Certificate of Live Birth” is the legal title of the document, in all 50 states. It’s never called anything else. Call your local health department or state’s dept. of vital records if you don’t believe me. May want to get your “facts” right before you go being all righteously indignant next time; you come off as less of a fool that way. :)

By: HLR

HLR — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:55:57 +0000

To CX Hall:

I suppose you’re also one who believes we should not worry about border control? If that’s the case, welcome President Jose Hernandez!

BTW, I could care less about border control… just making a point…

By: b

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:42:51 +0000

Mr. Seebeck
I was not being sarcastic, rather I was attempting to bring a bit a gravity to all these comments, we are all amatuers.

I am sure glad you hold that low of an opinion of lawyers, especially constitutional lawyers… do have that same opinion of our brilliant and reasonable Cheif Justice Roberts, who like Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law review and has serious grounding in constitutional law. Added to that do you really think that anywhere near 95% of Harvard Law grads could not pass a civics test? (If you do you are crazy and have no faith in our system)
The philosophical and legal underpinnings of our Constitution are not trivial matters to be interperted by a bunch of novices like ourselves, it takes many years of training and research in order to develop the intellectual tools necessary to come to true informed opinion on these matters, not just going to websites and cherry picking info like you, myself and probably everyone else on this thread has done. Maybe this idea is averse to you and your 20-30% of ultra conservatives in this country that detest lawyers and view the constitution and the law through your very limited cultural scope. I for one am confident and happy that y’alls view of our country, law and polcy is about to be roundly rejected by the American people on Nov. 4.

By: billvanallen

billvanallen — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:23:35 +0000

http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/08D1256P.pdf

PDF order from court website

By: C. X. Hall

C. X. Hall — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:06:56 +0000

This is an idiotic requirement and should be abolished through the amendment process.