Comments on: Nader-Barr-Baldwin Debate Set for October 30 in Cleveland http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:51:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=9483 By: GA http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557658 GA Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:35:24 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557658 Skeffington, who is the viper tongue allegedly apreading lies on the internet? This comment was a bit too obscure for my comprehension. Skeffington, who is the viper tongue allegedly apreading lies on the internet? This comment was a bit too obscure for my comprehension.

]]> By: RM http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557590 RM Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:36:51 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557590 Skeffington, actually it was not Nader's debate. The Barr Campaign reached out to our camp through Baldwin then went to Nader who tried to bring in Tobin-the-Liar. Zimmer was a proposed venue but a school activity ruled it out so they considered Ohio State but then Nader could not make that so they shifted to Cleveland after the City Club made the offer. McKinney's commitments are understandable and her refusal to participate in Tobin/Nader's debate on the 19th is as well due to the sliminess of the organizer. Skeffington, actually it was not Nader’s debate. The Barr Campaign reached out to our camp through Baldwin then went to Nader who tried to bring in Tobin-the-Liar. Zimmer was a proposed venue but a school activity ruled it out so they considered Ohio State but then Nader could not make that so they shifted to Cleveland after the City Club made the offer. McKinney’s commitments are understandable and her refusal to participate in Tobin/Nader’s debate on the 19th is as well due to the sliminess of the organizer.

]]> By: Skeffington http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557555 Skeffington Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:37:57 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557555 This is not any different from the October 19th debate that was supposed to happen at Columbia University. We ended with two debates, one virtual at breakthematrix and another one at Columbia University which was cancelled. Only Cynthia McKinney attended the other debate because that is the one that her schedule allowed her to attend. This time around, the initial debate was supposed to happen at the University of Cincinnati Zimmer at 8:30pm between Bob Barr and Pastor Baldwin. Cynthia McKinney couldn't attend because she was scheduled to be in Houston to stand against Death Penalty and support the family of the citizen who will be executed today. I don't think that Texas would reschedule the execution to facilitate the debate. The debate at UC-Zimmer has been canceled and now both Barr and Baldwin are in Cleveland Ohio for Nader's debate. Until today, most people thought that the debate was going to be held at UC-Zimmer at 8:30 pm. Meanwhile the viper tongue is behaving like Satan’s only daughter spreading lies on the internet. This is not any different from the October 19th debate that was supposed to happen at Columbia University. We ended with two debates, one virtual at breakthematrix and another one at Columbia University which was cancelled. Only Cynthia McKinney attended the other debate because that is the one that her schedule allowed her to attend. This time around, the initial debate was supposed to happen at the University of Cincinnati Zimmer at 8:30pm between Bob Barr and Pastor Baldwin. Cynthia McKinney couldn’t attend because she was scheduled to be in Houston to stand against Death Penalty and support the family of the citizen who will be executed today. I don’t think that Texas would reschedule the execution to facilitate the debate. The debate at UC-Zimmer has been canceled and now both Barr and Baldwin are in Cleveland Ohio for Nader’s debate. Until today, most people thought that the debate was going to be held at UC-Zimmer at 8:30 pm. Meanwhile the viper tongue is behaving like Satan’s only daughter spreading lies on the internet.

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]]> By: paulie http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557491 paulie Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:05:44 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557491 Do what you want. It's not even close to being run by Nader or Nader supporters, and it's the #1 in traffic site on independent/alternative parties. Do what you want. It’s not even close to being run by Nader or Nader supporters, and it’s the #1 in traffic site on independent/alternative parties.

]]> By: RM http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557486 RM Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:46:37 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557486 That's odd. Why would we bother making a case on a site that simply republished an unsubstantiated rumor posted as a comment on another Web site? Not much credibility there. Is that site also run by Nader through another person just like Tobin's group? That’s odd. Why would we bother making a case on a site that simply republished an unsubstantiated rumor posted as a comment on another Web site? Not much credibility there. Is that site also run by Nader through another person just like Tobin’s group?

]]> By: paulie http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557480 paulie Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:29:09 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557480 Both sides can make their case at http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/rumor-mill-is-cynthia-mckinney-endorsing-obama/ A note on the title: Greens have denied any such endorsement. Both sides can make their case at

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/rumor-mill-is-cynthia-mckinney-endorsing-obama/

A note on the title: Greens have denied any such endorsement.

]]> By: RM http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557478 RM Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:09:06 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557478 Scott, is 100% correct regarding the first debate organized by Tobin/Nader. The lack of professionalism by this young woman seeps through when she slanders candidates who don't bow down at her request. It's all part of the Nader team's scheme to look like third-party movement leaders on stage but working to destroy it behind the scenes. Christina Tobin cannot be trusted to organize a bake sale. The same goes for most of Nader's team. They are attempting to create discontent with McKinney, Barr and Baldwin while wearing a halo. I hear McCain's team is learning from their tactics. Scott, is 100% correct regarding the first debate organized by Tobin/Nader.

The lack of professionalism by this young woman seeps through when she slanders candidates who don’t bow down at her request. It’s all part of the Nader team’s scheme to look like third-party movement leaders on stage but working to destroy it behind the scenes.

Christina Tobin cannot be trusted to organize a bake sale. The same goes for most of Nader’s team.

They are attempting to create discontent with McKinney, Barr and Baldwin while wearing a halo. I hear McCain’s team is learning from their tactics.

]]> By: Mike Gillis http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557472 Mike Gillis Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:50:48 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557472 Having just watched this C-SPAN video, I came away with one thought: Cynthia McKinney refused to criticize Obama. At all. She wouldn’t even mention his name or repudiate callers who told her that she should support him or wrongly stated that she and he are on the same page politically. Seems like she just refused to swing when someone tossed her a softball and just changed the subject. The best she does is talk generally about the Democratic party not representing her, but she lets statements about how Obama being progressive or similar to her go totally unanswered. She has a real opportunity to expose Obama and his pitiful record and doesn’t take it. She could have mentioned his vote for the PATRIOT Act, FISA, his support of the death penalty, his support of Blackwater and willingness to continue the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and explore the possibility of preemptive strikes on Pakistan and Iran. That’s pretty inexcusable. Why won’t she go after Obama’s record? Having just watched this C-SPAN video, I came away with one thought:

Cynthia McKinney refused to criticize Obama. At all. She wouldn’t even mention his name or repudiate callers who told her that she should support him or wrongly stated that she and he are on the same page politically.

Seems like she just refused to swing when someone tossed her a softball and just changed the subject.

The best she does is talk generally about the Democratic party not representing her, but she lets statements about how Obama being progressive or similar to her go totally unanswered.

She has a real opportunity to expose Obama and his pitiful record and doesn’t take it. She could have mentioned his vote for the PATRIOT Act, FISA, his support of the death penalty, his support of Blackwater and willingness to continue the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and explore the possibility of preemptive strikes on Pakistan and Iran.

That’s pretty inexcusable. Why won’t she go after Obama’s record?

]]> By: tim http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/10/29/nader-barr-baldwin-debate-set-for-october-30-in-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-557471 tim Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:44:17 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4220#comment-557471 Who is the moderator? Hopefully, he will learn from Chris Hedges how NOT to moderate a debate (e.g., reading lengthy soliloquies and bloviating at the expense of the candidates' speaking time). He obviously thought himself more important than the "peons" on stage. Who is the moderator? Hopefully, he will learn from Chris Hedges how NOT to moderate a debate (e.g., reading lengthy soliloquies and bloviating at the expense of the candidates’ speaking time). He obviously thought himself more important than the “peons” on stage.

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