Comments on: Minor Party, Independent Presidential Candidates May Have Tipped 4 States http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:39:47 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Charles http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-564153 Charles Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:10:50 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-564153 Thanks to the Libertarians, the Dems will have Prez-elect Obama in GA making sure Chambliss loses that seat in the run-off. The Repugs have no one but themselves to blame for not adopting instant runoff voting. Thanks to the Libertarians, the Dems will have Prez-elect Obama in GA making sure Chambliss loses that seat in the run-off.

The Repugs have no one but themselves to blame for not adopting instant runoff voting.

]]> By: Jim Riley http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563855 Jim Riley Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:32:06 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563855 The most plausible case can be for North Carolina, but that is more in terms of two candidates who were kept off the ballot (McKinney and Nader). Had they been on the ballot and polled in similar numbers to Virginia or South Carolina they would combined received about 0.6%. Baldwin would more likely have drawn from Barr. The most plausible case can be for North Carolina, but that is more in terms of two candidates who were kept off the ballot (McKinney and Nader). Had they been on the ballot and polled in similar numbers to Virginia or South Carolina they would combined received about 0.6%. Baldwin would more likely have drawn from Barr.

]]> By: svf http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563512 svf Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:21:38 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563512 96% of precincts reporting Saxby Chambliss Republican 1,838,787 49.9% Jim Martin Democratic 1,720,931 46.7% Allen Buckley Libertarian 125,998 3.4% wow, can't get any closer than that... I guess it depends on absentee ballots, etc... hopefully they tilt DEM and force that runoff... 96% of precincts reporting

Saxby Chambliss Republican 1,838,787 49.9%
Jim Martin Democratic 1,720,931
46.7%
Allen Buckley Libertarian 125,998 3.4%

wow, can’t get any closer than that… I guess it depends on absentee ballots, etc… hopefully they tilt DEM and force that runoff…

]]> By: Dean http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563479 Dean Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:27:57 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563479 I think that the minor party vote needs to be at least twice the difference between the old party candidates for this to have been likely, since many minor candidate supporters would not vote for an old party candidate. And with relatively strong independent candidates all over the ideological spectrum, it's even harder to know. I think that the minor party vote needs to be at least twice the difference between the old party candidates for this to have been likely, since many minor candidate supporters would not vote for an old party candidate. And with relatively strong independent candidates all over the ideological spectrum, it’s even harder to know.

]]> By: lemur http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563419 lemur Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:47:51 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563419 Richard: Don't forget Nebraska's second district (Omaha) electoral vote. Latest results show McCain ahead by about 500; Nader has 1502; McKinney 292. Richard:
Don’t forget Nebraska’s second district (Omaha) electoral vote. Latest results show McCain ahead by about 500; Nader has 1502; McKinney 292.

]]> By: David S. http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563360 David S. Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:31:55 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563360 Georgia Libertarians had a great night. In Georgia candidates must get 50% to win an election and avoid a runoff. It appears that Allen Buckley (U.S. Senate) and Brandon Givens (Public Service Commission) both caused Dec. runoffs. Also, additional BIG news is that John Monds (candidate for Public Service Commission, which is a statewide election) broke the 1,000,000 vote mark! PLUS, he won at least two large Metro Atlanta counties (DeKalb and Clayton). Results are here: http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2008_1104/swall.htm Georgia Libertarians had a great night. In Georgia candidates must get 50% to win an election and avoid a runoff. It appears that Allen Buckley (U.S. Senate) and Brandon Givens (Public Service Commission) both caused Dec. runoffs.

Also, additional BIG news is that John Monds (candidate for Public Service Commission, which is a statewide election) broke the 1,000,000 vote mark! PLUS, he won at least two large Metro Atlanta counties (DeKalb and Clayton).

Results are here: http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2008_1104/swall.htm

]]> By: Craig M. http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563341 Craig M. Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:15:50 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563341 One thing to think about is that for people that voted for a third party candidate, that is who they wanted to vote for. I was not taking a vote away from McCain because he never had my vote to begin with. One thing to think about is that for people that voted for a third party candidate, that is who they wanted to vote for. I was not taking a vote away from McCain because he never had my vote to begin with.

]]> By: M Carling http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563309 M Carling Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:08:26 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563309 For any of those states to have tipped the other way would require assuming implausible behavior by the voters. There were no spoilers in the 2008 presidential election. For any of those states to have tipped the other way would require assuming implausible behavior by the voters. There were no spoilers in the 2008 presidential election.

]]> By: Rationality and Science Education http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563304 Rationality and Science Education Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:00:11 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563304 Hey TPW and IPR types, where are those near double figures for Nader, Barr, Baldwin, and Left Hook Lucy McKinney? Told ya so, told ya so, told ya so! -----------Donald Raymond Lake Hey TPW and IPR types, where are those near double figures for Nader, Barr, Baldwin, and Left Hook Lucy McKinney?

Told ya so, told ya so, told ya so!

———–Donald Raymond Lake

]]> By: Michael Seebeck http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/04/minor-party-independent-presidential-candidates-may-have-tipped-4-states/comment-page-1/#comment-563087 Michael Seebeck Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:36:55 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4261#comment-563087 Indiana is not so. Lake County was the difference on a late tally that was 70%+ Obama and put him over the top. Indiana is not so. Lake County was the difference on a late tally that was 70%+ Obama and put him over the top.

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