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	<title>Comments on: Petition Requirements Soar in Some States</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-577620</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8, Sometimes they are a combination.

In Texas, nomination for a district office requires the lesser of 500 or 5% of the gubernatorial vote in the district.  For US Congress, the 5% would typically be around 7 or 8,000, with a few outliers, especially on the low side.

The 500 value was approved in &lt;i&gt;American Party of Texas v White&lt;/i&gt;, so the legislature would be unlikely to change it, even though it is now equivalent to about 0.35%.

But the same standards are applied to other district offices.  There are 150 Texas House districts (vs. 32 congressional districts), which would mean that 5% would typically be around 1500.  There may be a few districts that require 5% (but this would be less than 500).  At the time the law was written, there may have been no districts where the cap of 500 would have been reached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, Sometimes they are a combination.</p>
<p>In Texas, nomination for a district office requires the lesser of 500 or 5% of the gubernatorial vote in the district.  For US Congress, the 5% would typically be around 7 or 8,000, with a few outliers, especially on the low side.</p>
<p>The 500 value was approved in <i>American Party of Texas v White</i>, so the legislature would be unlikely to change it, even though it is now equivalent to about 0.35%.</p>
<p>But the same standards are applied to other district offices.  There are 150 Texas House districts (vs. 32 congressional districts), which would mean that 5% would typically be around 1500.  There may be a few districts that require 5% (but this would be less than 500).  At the time the law was written, there may have been no districts where the cap of 500 would have been reached.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-577610</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #5, the problem using population is that there is not a good count on non-citizens; and you are probably still going to end up with fairly arbitrary percentages.  

For example, let&#039;s say you decided 5% of voters was OK.  But then you decide to use registered voters.  Someone points out that a lot of registrations might be by people who have moved, died, don&#039;t care about politics, etc.  So you adjust the figure to 3%.  But depending on interest, better quality registrations, that might be 4% or 6% of voters.  And registration can be almost as volatile as turnout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #5, the problem using population is that there is not a good count on non-citizens; and you are probably still going to end up with fairly arbitrary percentages.  </p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s say you decided 5% of voters was OK.  But then you decide to use registered voters.  Someone points out that a lot of registrations might be by people who have moved, died, don&#8217;t care about politics, etc.  So you adjust the figure to 3%.  But depending on interest, better quality registrations, that might be 4% or 6% of voters.  And registration can be almost as volatile as turnout.</p>
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		<title>By: Laine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can never support the Alaskan Inpendence Party due to the socially backwards views of some members and the general disregard that I have seen for environmental concerns. That said, I appreciate their ability to pull votes from Stevens this year in the senate race. Anyway, I predict a strong third party candidate from the left in Alaska by 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can never support the Alaskan Inpendence Party due to the socially backwards views of some members and the general disregard that I have seen for environmental concerns. That said, I appreciate their ability to pull votes from Stevens this year in the senate race. Anyway, I predict a strong third party candidate from the left in Alaska by 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-576769</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am vice chairman of the ballot access commitee for the constitution party of Nc.  If you live in/know anyone who would be willing to sign our petition please let me know.   
ballot@constitutionpartync.com      

We will need just over 85,000 valid signitures in a little over 3 years to make the 2012 elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am vice chairman of the ballot access commitee for the constitution party of Nc.  If you live in/know anyone who would be willing to sign our petition please let me know.<br />
<a href="mailto:ballot@constitutionpartync.com">ballot@constitutionpartync.com</a>      </p>
<p>We will need just over 85,000 valid signitures in a little over 3 years to make the 2012 elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Northern Exposure</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-576738</link>
		<dc:creator>Northern Exposure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alaskan Independence Party has retained major party ballot status.  The Libertarian Party of Alaska has not.  This leaves the AIP as the only viable opposition party to the D&#039;s &amp; R&#039;s in Alaska.  In this capacity, we have gifted the American people by thwarting the return of convicted felon Stevens to the U.S. Senate. Stay tuned for more from the Northern frontier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Alaskan Independence Party has retained major party ballot status.  The Libertarian Party of Alaska has not.  This leaves the AIP as the only viable opposition party to the D&#8217;s &amp; R&#8217;s in Alaska.  In this capacity, we have gifted the American people by thwarting the return of convicted felon Stevens to the U.S. Senate. Stay tuned for more from the Northern frontier!</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-576331</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the rules like in states that don&#039;t have it based on percentage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the rules like in states that don&#8217;t have it based on percentage?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel N. Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-576042</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel N. Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;287,910 signatures&lt;/i&gt;

Since we can&#039;t start collecting signatures until January of the election year and have to turn them in by the deadline approximately 6 months later, working 8 hours a day, that comes to about 200 signaturs an hour.  That&#039;s why you don&#039;t see any Libertarians on the ballot in Georgia for US house seats. This is criminal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>287,910 signatures</i></p>
<p>Since we can&#8217;t start collecting signatures until January of the election year and have to turn them in by the deadline approximately 6 months later, working 8 hours a day, that comes to about 200 signaturs an hour.  That&#8217;s why you don&#8217;t see any Libertarians on the ballot in Georgia for US house seats. This is criminal!</p>
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		<title>By: Demo Rep</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-575795</link>
		<dc:creator>Demo Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEPARATE IS NOT EQUAL.

BROWN V. BD OF ED 1954.

ANY ballot access lawyers with ANY brains - to overrule a mere 40 years of JUNK ballot access cases starting with Williams v. Rhodes ???

The Supremes do periodically overrule their earlier JUNK cases that are obviously defective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEPARATE IS NOT EQUAL.</p>
<p>BROWN V. BD OF ED 1954.</p>
<p>ANY ballot access lawyers with ANY brains &#8211; to overrule a mere 40 years of JUNK ballot access cases starting with Williams v. Rhodes ???</p>
<p>The Supremes do periodically overrule their earlier JUNK cases that are obviously defective.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny S</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/11/18/petition-requirements-soar-in-some-states/comment-page-1/#comment-575413</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t changing ballot access be based on the number of potential voters? Including unregistered and whatnot? This doesn&#039;t take into account that each election is different. This is a very inconstant standard to use to me and quite unrealistic. In a year where people are not very fired up, it puts a modicum on others to break in using constantly higher standards. However, based on population it keeps relatively constant standards people must live up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t changing ballot access be based on the number of potential voters? Including unregistered and whatnot? This doesn&#8217;t take into account that each election is different. This is a very inconstant standard to use to me and quite unrealistic. In a year where people are not very fired up, it puts a modicum on others to break in using constantly higher standards. However, based on population it keeps relatively constant standards people must live up to.</p>
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		<title>By: PTK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this sucks. Hopefully some candidate can with some miracle get ballot access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this sucks. Hopefully some candidate can with some miracle get ballot access.</p>
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