Home General New Presidential Totals Posted Sunday, Nov. 30
formats

New Presidential Totals Posted Sunday, Nov. 30

Published on November 30, 2008, by in General.

The new totals for Nader, Barr, Baldwin and McKinney reflect changes (since the last totals were posted a week ago) in Alabama, California, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Utah, and Washington.

Special thanks to Michael Jose for getting the write-in votes for the declared write-in candidates in Maine. The only three declared write-ins in Maine were Bob Barr (251 write-ins), Chuck Baldwin (177 write-ins) and Jonathan Allen (3 write-ins). Maine totals these three numbers on its official election returns web page, yet refuses to break them down in those official returns. Yet Maine does know how many each of the three candidates got, and does send that information to the National Archives. Michael Jose discovered this “hidden” tabulation.

The biggest boost in votes yet to come will probably be in California,
Illinois, New York, and Pennsylvania, since those four populous states don’t have their official returns known yet. No write-ins from those four states are included so far. Some counties in California have reported write-ins, but those fragmentary returns are not included yet.

When all the states have their official totals, the results for all 23 presidential candidates who were on the ballot in at least one state will be posted.

16 Responses

  1. paulie

    Thanks Richard…

    BTW you should probably use something other than CNN for the “other candidates here” link at the top – they stopped updating on Nov. 17.

    I’ll let you know if I find a better one.

    -p

  2. Trent Hill

    Looks like Baldwin is going to eclipse 200,000 votes.

  3. Charles

    McKinney’s numbers have hardly moved. What a pathetic outcome for the Green Party, after a 95% decline due to the disaster of David Cobb’s illegitimate bid — a recovery of barely 1% of that by a six-term Congresswoman is shocking. I think her similar lack of credibility and tendency towards conspiracism has a lot to do with it, not to mention the kids-glove treatment given to the Dems in 2004 and 2008.

    Fusionism is going to be the death of the Green Party. Good riddance to any supposedly independent party which tries to prop up either wing of the bankrupt two-party scam.

  4. Hi,
    I’m continuing to update the figures as they are made official. All-candidates summary is at: http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2008&minper=0&f=0&off=0&elect=0
    Dave

  5. Mr. Anon

    Is Kentucky concealing the write-in totals? two official write-ins were out there (neither was a candidate on the ballot anywhere else)

  6. M Carling

    Trent Hill, why do you think Baldwin’s count will exceed 200,000? Write-in votes in California?

  7. All:

    Write In Votes in California are trickling in, and several counties do not list write ins on their county websites by individual candidate, only “collectively”. The SOS of the whole state will document the vote on December 13th statewide, collating these into final statewide totals.

    However, in my latest survey done today, we DO have 4 counties, with a good representation from across the state of demographics et al. that are showing the write in totals for individuals.

    These are Lassen , San Bernardino, Orange, and Yolo Counties.

    In these counties, Chuck Baldwin received a total 594 write in votes. These counties represent 14.12% of the total votes cast in California. Thus if we do the math, ( multiplying the total write in votes by 7.082 so as to total 100%) , The projected write in total will be…

    4207

    This would place California in the Top 20 States for the CP.

    Pennsylvania, also a populous state has yet to come. Adding in PA, CA and a couple of other states will bring Baldwin very close to the 200k achievement.

  8. Jonathan

    my analysis of all results, eveyone surpasssed expectations despite what you might have heard or thought, see my updated article on results:
    http://www.nolanchart.com/article5411.html

  9. Trent Hill

    “Trent Hill, why do you think Baldwin’s count will exceed 200,000? Write-in votes in California?”

    CA and PA’s write-ins alone will probably add up to somewhere around 7-8k. Add in the other write-in votes that are trickling in, and i’m sure it’ll happen.

  10. Do these numbers reflect the few hundred votes Bob Barr received in the Territory of Guam? He was the only 3rd party candidate on the Guam ballot. He shouldn’t be denied those votes.

    (I admit, I have a special personal interest in this, since I’m the one who urged Sean Haugh to send in the filing paperwork for Barr’s Guam ballot access.)

  11. Richard

    yes, they do include Guam.

  12. кваритру на сутки, часы то вам сюда кваритры
    Люкс просто посмотрите вы еще не видели,
    разный стиль Японски, Китайский, и.т.д
    Все сюда http://www.kvartira-vrn.ru

  13. Michael

    I wrote in Alan Keyes here in Kentucky, on the ballot in three other states, and my vote wasn’t even listed in the county (Callaway). However, on Election Night one of the tv stations reported 220 write-in votes for Keyes in Missouri, a state where Keyes was not even listed as a write-in candidate!!

  14. Tom Yager

    # Charles Says:
    November 30th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    “McKinney’s numbers have hardly moved. What a pathetic outcome for the Green Party, after a 95% decline due to the disaster of David Cobb’s illegitimate bid — a recovery of barely 1% of that by a six-term Congresswoman is shocking.”

    Nader didn’t want the Green nomination in 2004 but Cobb did. There’s nothing illegitimate about Cobb moving into the vacuum left by Nader.

    In 2004, Nader’s vote totals declined by 84% compared with those of 2000. Both Cobb and Nader suffered from the “Anybody But Bush” mentality and the Democrats’ attacks on the Greens as spoilers.

    In 2008, Nader improved from 2004, but he still ended up 75% below his 2000 vote totals. It was another bad year for third parties in general.

    “Fusionism is going to be the death of the Green Party. Good riddance to any supposedly independent party which tries to prop up either wing of the bankrupt two-party scam.”

    I see very few Greens advocating fusion, although that accusation is routinely made. We were the only opposition to the Democrats in the Congressional elections in Arkansas.

  15. Richard, I did get your latest issue asking me to subscribe, and I do plan to do so, despite our often extreme differences.

    Thanks

    One last question. So, is the 520,368 number final for Barr? Is that it? Is that the number for the history books?

    I remember back in 1988 with the Ron Paul campaign, we were never able to get a final, final number, we just guessed it at 435,000.

  16. Richard

    Thank you, Eric. No, there are still more votes coming, especially from west coast states. Oregon and Washington always take a long time to count all the votes because Oregon uses all-mail ballots, and almost all counties in Washington do as well.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>