Comments on: Minor Party and Independent Candidate Vote for U.S. House in 2008 http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/12/09/minor-party-and-independent-candidate-vote-for-us-house-in-2008/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:51:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3357 By: Demo Rep http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/12/09/minor-party-and-independent-candidate-vote-for-us-house-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-588542 Demo Rep Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:22:22 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4419#comment-588542 Lots and lots of NON-votes due to NO D or NO R or NO third party / independent candidates in many of the 435 gerrymander districts. Same for many State legislatures. i.e. Gerrymander minority rule math in ALL of the above -- about half the votes in half the gerrymander areas = about 25-30 percent indirect minority rule in ALL of the above. Much worse due to primary math. REAL Democracy NOW Total Votes / Total Seats = EQUAL votes needed for each seat winner. NO primaries are needed. Ballot access via equal nominating petitions. P.R. in various *civilized* *modern* nations -- Israel, Germany, New Zealand, etc. with multiple parties winning seats. The U.S.A. continues in the gerrymander DARK AGES -- and it shows -- the pending bankruptcy of the U.S.A. and State regimes due to accumulated deficits in the $$$ Trillions and irrational unfunded liabilities. Lots and lots of NON-votes due to NO D or NO R or NO third party / independent candidates in many of the 435 gerrymander districts.

Same for many State legislatures.

i.e. Gerrymander minority rule math in ALL of the above — about half the votes in half the gerrymander areas = about 25-30 percent indirect minority rule in ALL of the above. Much worse due to primary math.

REAL Democracy NOW

Total Votes / Total Seats = EQUAL votes needed for each seat winner.

NO primaries are needed. Ballot access via equal nominating petitions.

P.R. in various *civilized* *modern* nations — Israel, Germany, New Zealand, etc. with multiple parties winning seats.

The U.S.A. continues in the gerrymander DARK AGES — and it shows — the pending bankruptcy of the U.S.A. and State regimes due to accumulated deficits in the $$$ Trillions and irrational unfunded liabilities.

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/12/09/minor-party-and-independent-candidate-vote-for-us-house-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-588485 Ross Levin Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:06:17 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4419#comment-588485 You can't blame it all on ballot access. Republicans and Democrats weren't in every race, either. And given these numbers, even if every nationally organized party was on every ballot, the minors would still get low single digit percentages. You can’t blame it all on ballot access. Republicans and Democrats weren’t in every race, either. And given these numbers, even if every nationally organized party was on every ballot, the minors would still get low single digit percentages.

]]> By: Richard http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/12/09/minor-party-and-independent-candidate-vote-for-us-house-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-588372 Richard Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:37:56 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4419#comment-588372 The "other" percentages are artificially lower because there are no "other" candidates on the ballot for US House in so many districts. If we had tolerant ballot access in every state, the "other" percentage would be much higher. The “other” percentages are artificially lower because there are no “other” candidates on the ballot for US House in so many districts. If we had tolerant ballot access in every state, the “other” percentage would be much higher.

]]> By: ETJB http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/12/09/minor-party-and-independent-candidate-vote-for-us-house-in-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-588369 ETJB Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:29:19 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=4419#comment-588369 Interesting. Looking at these numbers, I do sometimes wonmder if adopting some form of PR would make that much difference in the US. Interesting. Looking at these numbers, I do sometimes wonmder if adopting some form of PR would make that much difference in the US.

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