75% OF IOWA VOTERS FAVOR A NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE FOR PRESIDENT
A survey of 800 Iowa voters showed 75% overall support for a national popular vote for President. The question was “How do you think we should elect the President when we vote in the November general election: should it be the candidate who gets the most votes in all 50 states, or the current electoral college system?
By political affiliation, support for a national popular vote for President was 82% among Democrats, 63% among Republicans, and 77% among others.
By age, support was 76% among 18-29 year olds, 65% among 30-45 year olds, 76% among 46-65 year olds, and 80% for those older than 65.
By gender, support was 82% among women and 67% among men.
By race, support was 75% among whites (representing 93% of respondents), 65% among African Americans (representing 2% of respondents), 86% among Hispanics (representing 1% of respondents), and 58% among others (representing 4% of respondents).
The survey was conducted on February 17-18, 2009, by Public Policy Polling.
Have we learned nothing from Florida 2000 or Minnesota 2008? In both those instances, a nasty, intensive and lengthy (or at least potentially lengthy in Florida) post-election battle has been contained within one state.
National popular vote *GUARANTEES* that someday (4 years? 100 years?) we will witness a nationwide recount.
The EC certainly isn’t perfect, but it does function to isolate election issues to individual states. For me, a replacement for the current EC must accomplish the same function.
NPV is an attempt by the F a s c i s t – S o c i a l i s t s and especially the Democratic Party to make America into a government controlled banana republic.
They have no concern about LIBERTY. They just want to take total control.
Under the new NPV plan it is possible for a candidate to be elected with a tiny fraction of the national vote. There is, in fact, no fraction too low to be elected. 40%, 30%, 20%, 10% … whoever gets the most votes wins.
This is perfectly fine for representative districts where there are numerous other such districts for balance and when the National Executive is elected in a system requiring some kind of majority.
But with the NPV, all such rationality is lost. The US becomes a lawless banana republic.
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IN FACT:
Under NPV, a candidate who has actually earned ZERO electoral votes could be elected President, after the NPV computation determines that all the Electoral Votes earned by some other candidate should be flipped to the NPV candidate.
A candidate who has carried the overwhelming majority of states and Electoral Votes could have enough states Electoral Votes flipped to the NPV to give the Presidency to someone who won NO states and just carried the biggest cities.
NPV is a disaster waiting to end LIBERTY in America:
. it means the final end of the federal system
. it terminates the federal compact that binds the states together
. it makes the US a banana republic
. as the States break up, it could lead to civil war
. it ensures massive electoral corruption and fraud will occur in places untouched until today
. it is being pursued by political hacks attempting to gain some electoral advantage and evil F a s c i s t – S o c i a l i s t s lusting for power.
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Under the current Electoral College system, it is virtually impossible for anyone to be elected without having a super plurality of support. To garner the required MAJORITY of Electoral Votes means that a candidate must have demonstrated national support and support in states containing a majority of the electoral votes.
Even better would be the adoption of the Maine/Nebraska system nationwide.
Instead we need to adopt the Maine/Nebraska system:
Under the Maine/Nebraska system, not only are two electoral votes awarded for winning each state, but one vote is awarded within each Congressional District.
This greatly expands the number of competitive areas in the Naional Election.
IN ADDITION to focusing on every competitive statewide election, candidates will have to focus on competitive Congressional Districts.
So, in addition to the normal 1/3 of the States, more than 1/3 of the Congressional Districts will be in play.
(This fact is not discernable from the mere observation of past races, since in past races this system was not in use. To determine this we must use a prospective, pro-forma type comparison.)
Thus, under the Maine/Nebraska system more than half of all US areas will be in play. Even better results will come from expanding the size of the House of Representatives and the number of Electoral Districts.
At the same time, switching to the Maine/Nebraska electoral college system makes the perfect electoral system:
1) Every voter is treated equally in selecting one vote per congressional district, which represent approximately the same number of voters.
2) Every State is treated equally in selecting two votes per state. This preserves the federal compact and helps prevent civil war.
3) The advantages of electoral fraud are reduced the the lowest possible level, and therfore we will have the least corrupted electoral system.
4) The Maine/Nebraska Electoral College system guarantees that the candidates elected will have demonstrated the greatest possible support nationwide, representing the greates number of voters, districts and states.
5) By ensuring that the candidates elected have the greatest possible nationwide support, the Maine/Nebraska Electoral College system ensures stability, peaceful transitions, national harmony and internal peace. It prevents the US from becoming a banana republic due to its electoral system.
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for the PEACE, PROSPERITY and LIBERTY of America,
we must preserve the Electoral College system and:
ADOPT
…. the Maine/Nebraska Electoral College system of chosing the President and Vice President of the United States. We must expand the House of Representatives to 600, 800, even 1,200 members.
and we must
REJECT
…. the dangerous and evil NPV plan before it leads to fraud, corruption, and the fractionalization of America. Eventually we will see the election of a candidate who represents fewer than 25% of the actual votes cast, and who has won ZERO or close to zero electoral votes prior to the NPV calculation. Which would result in civil war.
February 25th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
75% OF IOWA VOTERS FAVOR A NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE FOR PRESIDENT
A survey of 800 Iowa voters showed 75% overall support for a national popular vote for President. The question was “How do you think we should elect the President when we vote in the November general election: should it be the candidate who gets the most votes in all 50 states, or the current electoral college system?
By political affiliation, support for a national popular vote for President was 82% among Democrats, 63% among Republicans, and 77% among others.
By age, support was 76% among 18-29 year olds, 65% among 30-45 year olds, 76% among 46-65 year olds, and 80% for those older than 65.
By gender, support was 82% among women and 67% among men.
By race, support was 75% among whites (representing 93% of respondents), 65% among African Americans (representing 2% of respondents), 86% among Hispanics (representing 1% of respondents), and 58% among others (representing 4% of respondents).
The survey was conducted on February 17-18, 2009, by Public Policy Polling.
see http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
February 26th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Have we learned nothing from Florida 2000 or Minnesota 2008? In both those instances, a nasty, intensive and lengthy (or at least potentially lengthy in Florida) post-election battle has been contained within one state.
National popular vote *GUARANTEES* that someday (4 years? 100 years?) we will witness a nationwide recount.
The EC certainly isn’t perfect, but it does function to isolate election issues to individual states. For me, a replacement for the current EC must accomplish the same function.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
The country is doomed. Circumnavigating our Constitution is a highly destructive behavior.
February 28th, 2009 at 8:40 am
NPV is an attempt by the F a s c i s t – S o c i a l i s t s and especially the Democratic Party to make America into a government controlled banana republic.
They have no concern about LIBERTY. They just want to take total control.
Under the new NPV plan it is possible for a candidate to be elected with a tiny fraction of the national vote. There is, in fact, no fraction too low to be elected. 40%, 30%, 20%, 10% … whoever gets the most votes wins.
This is perfectly fine for representative districts where there are numerous other such districts for balance and when the National Executive is elected in a system requiring some kind of majority.
But with the NPV, all such rationality is lost. The US becomes a lawless banana republic.
********************************************
IN FACT:
Under NPV, a candidate who has actually earned ZERO electoral votes could be elected President, after the NPV computation determines that all the Electoral Votes earned by some other candidate should be flipped to the NPV candidate.
A candidate who has carried the overwhelming majority of states and Electoral Votes could have enough states Electoral Votes flipped to the NPV to give the Presidency to someone who won NO states and just carried the biggest cities.
NPV is a disaster waiting to end LIBERTY in America:
. it means the final end of the federal system
. it terminates the federal compact that binds the states together
. it makes the US a banana republic
. as the States break up, it could lead to civil war
. it ensures massive electoral corruption and fraud will occur in places untouched until today
. it is being pursued by political hacks attempting to gain some electoral advantage and evil F a s c i s t – S o c i a l i s t s lusting for power.
***********************************************
Under the current Electoral College system, it is virtually impossible for anyone to be elected without having a super plurality of support. To garner the required MAJORITY of Electoral Votes means that a candidate must have demonstrated national support and support in states containing a majority of the electoral votes.
Even better would be the adoption of the Maine/Nebraska system nationwide.
February 28th, 2009 at 9:04 am
We need to wake up and crush the NPV takeover.
Instead we need to adopt the Maine/Nebraska system:
Under the Maine/Nebraska system, not only are two electoral votes awarded for winning each state, but one vote is awarded within each Congressional District.
This greatly expands the number of competitive areas in the Naional Election.
IN ADDITION to focusing on every competitive statewide election, candidates will have to focus on competitive Congressional Districts.
So, in addition to the normal 1/3 of the States, more than 1/3 of the Congressional Districts will be in play.
(This fact is not discernable from the mere observation of past races, since in past races this system was not in use. To determine this we must use a prospective, pro-forma type comparison.)
Thus, under the Maine/Nebraska system more than half of all US areas will be in play. Even better results will come from expanding the size of the House of Representatives and the number of Electoral Districts.
At the same time, switching to the Maine/Nebraska electoral college system makes the perfect electoral system:
1) Every voter is treated equally in selecting one vote per congressional district, which represent approximately the same number of voters.
2) Every State is treated equally in selecting two votes per state. This preserves the federal compact and helps prevent civil war.
3) The advantages of electoral fraud are reduced the the lowest possible level, and therfore we will have the least corrupted electoral system.
4) The Maine/Nebraska Electoral College system guarantees that the candidates elected will have demonstrated the greatest possible support nationwide, representing the greates number of voters, districts and states.
5) By ensuring that the candidates elected have the greatest possible nationwide support, the Maine/Nebraska Electoral College system ensures stability, peaceful transitions, national harmony and internal peace. It prevents the US from becoming a banana republic due to its electoral system.
**********************************************
for the PEACE, PROSPERITY and LIBERTY of America,
we must preserve the Electoral College system and:
ADOPT
…. the Maine/Nebraska Electoral College system of chosing the President and Vice President of the United States. We must expand the House of Representatives to 600, 800, even 1,200 members.
and we must
REJECT
…. the dangerous and evil NPV plan before it leads to fraud, corruption, and the fractionalization of America. Eventually we will see the election of a candidate who represents fewer than 25% of the actual votes cast, and who has won ZERO or close to zero electoral votes prior to the NPV calculation. Which would result in civil war.
March 4th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I am strongly against this Bill. I want my vote to be counted no matter how small the state is.Thank you