On March 16, a new lawsuit was filed in Solano County, California, state court, over the identity of the proper officers of the American Independent Party of California. The case is King v Robinson, fcs033119. This is yet another round over the disputed state conventions of the AIP in 2008. Previous lawsuits filed by the faction of the party that is allied with the national Constitution Party never reached a resolution on the merits, because of procedural flaws in the filings.
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Edited By Richard Winger
Why spend all this money when the CP should organize it’s own party under its own label. why hide behind the AIP label.
Why spend all this money when the CP should organize it’s own party under its own label. why hide behind the AIP label.
= FYI, it takes nearly 90,000 signatures to get a new party on the ballot. AND The matter does have to be settled, either in court or at the discussion table, it would be very stupid and irrational to splinter the constitutionalist movement in California.
Actually Cody, it is actually more than just 90k signatures, it is 90K REGISTRATIONS.
A presidential candidate needs some 160k signautures in a fairly short time framse.
The cost of such would run well over $1 million.
So when is the hearing?
It’s way too early for anyone to know a hearing date. This is not a case that is being expedited.
If people were really supporting the CP party and not just registering as an Independent getting those people to sign up should be pretty straight forward or they could also register on the libertarian ticket as a way to fully support the constitution. The libertarians are a fully qualified party under there own name, right.
I was the elected chairman of the convention of AIP
in 2008. The convention took place at the Sacramento auditorium of the California Secretary of State. Jim King did not attend the convention,
but Don Grundmann did attend the convention and addressed the convention from the floor before he
departed the American Independent Party 2008 state
convention. Richard Winger, I think it is wrong to
call the 2008 state convention disputed. Jim King
real issue with the party was the fact that his wife was removed from the national committee by the
state central committee, because she was registered
to vote in Los Angeles County as a Republican who
called herself “Republican Business Woman of the
Year.”
Jim King term expired as a National Committeeman on
September 3, 2008. He is still a member of the State Central Committee, but holds no office in the
party. Don Grundmann is a member of the State Central Committee, but he too held no office in the
AIP since his term expired as a National Committeeman on September 3, 2008. The American Independent Party is not connected to the Constitution Party.
The national party is the America’s Independent Party. Our 2008 ticket was Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes(for President) and Pastor Dr. Wiley S. Drake, Sr. (for Vice President)of the First Southen
Baptist Church of Buena Park, California. Dr.
Wiley S. Drake is also a current officer of the
AIP.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party
” Don Grundmann did attend the convention and addressed the convention from the floor before he
departed the American Independent Party 2008 state
convention.”
Response : I walked into the fake convention of Seidenberg/Robinson/Noonan to proclaim them as the Judases, traitors, and liars that they were and still are. The true State Convention of the AIP was one week earlier in Los Angeles. It was a convention that the lying rats could have attended but they chose not to since they knew that they would lose in any honest vote. Their fake Sacramento convention was designed to provide the appropriate conditions to ” win ” via a totally fake vote including unilateral and arbitrary disqualification of anyone suspected of voting against them and the introduction of any needed false proxies in order to ” gin up ” their pathetic numbers. Their full intention all along has been to, like the liberals, go to court to achieve ” victory ‘ since they are afraid of any honest vote. They are relying on Republican Party money to finance their corruption and Mark Seidenberg is the funnel for that corruption.
” Jim King real issue with the party was the fact that his wife was removed from the national committee by the state central committee, because she was registered to vote in Los Angeles County as a Republican who called herself “Republican Business Woman of the Year.â€
Response : The real problem with Jim King, for Mark Seidenberg and his fellow lying rats, is that he is totally honest and hence provides a stunning and blinding contrast to their continual lying and corruption. Robinson and Seidenberg as ” officers ” of the party has only be ” achieved ” by their own corruption and the corruption ( to this time ) of the courts. They are a total disgrace to the party as they represent the lowest below the barrel scum of our nation. The Real AIP, which Jim King and I represent, stands for telling the truth and fighting the corruption which is attacking our nation on all fronts. Robinson and Seidenberg, as witnesses by their won actions, are total and complete cowards in all that they do. They will fight for nothing except ( especially for Seidenberg ) the ” joy ” of destroying the Constitution Party and this because they are acting as agents of the Republican Party to destroy its future expected enemy. The result is their attempt to make the AIP, as with their fake Alan Keyes party, into ” Republican Lite.” Mark Seidenberg can only dream of being .0000001% as honest as Jim King is and knowing Mark Seidenberg as I do he is quite busy going the opposite way. If you ever see him choking you will know that he attempted to be honest for one second but could not continue as anything but lying is incompatible with his true nature and character.
The AIP never disaffiliated from the Constitution Party. Mark Robinson, Mark Seidenberg, Ed Noonan, and Gerald and Grace Hill deliberately conspired to commit fraud by filing false documents with the Secretary of State office to claim that the AIP disaffiliated from the CP. No vote for such a disaffiliation ever took place. The above 5 liars will shortly be investigated and prosecuted for fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud via their deliberate filing of false documents with the SOS office in order to deceive that office. The AIP is still affilated with the Constitution Party.
A fortunate result of the 2008 campaign is that Alan Keyes is exposed as a corrupt liar and complete fraud. He is a complete and total fake whose myth will be progressively exposed and destroyed in the months to come. A unfortunate result of the same campaign is that Wiley Drake has chosen to betray his Christian foundation and has accepted 30 pieces of silver to betray the nation by his endorsement of the corruption-to-the-bone of Alan Keyes as expressed and exposed by the liars noted above.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Don Grundmann is just plain wrong. There is no connection between the American Independent Party
and the Constitution Party. The American Independent Party is affiliated with the America’s
Independent Party and has been since June, 2008.
Warning! Don Grundmann & James King hold no office
in the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party.
The so-called ” affiliation ” which the ultra-corrupt Mark Seidenberg writes of was accomplished by his participation in a conspiracy to commit fraud by deliberately filing false documents with the Secretary of State office. In other words he and 4 others; Mark Robinson, Ed Noonan, Gerald Hill, and Grace Hill; all knowingly lied to the SOS office regarding the disaffiliation of the AIP from the CP. He, and they, knowingly filed fake papers with the SOS office in order to deceive the state regarding the status of the AIP. He, and they, are known and outright liars who will be prosecuted for their corruption and corrupt actions. They represent and stand for total corruption.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
I know of no “conspiracy to commit fraud” on the part of either the Hills, Robinson, Noonan, and/or
with Seidenberg (myself).
Don Grundmann is just wrong. I can state as the elected chairman of the 2008 American Independent Party Convention, the party convention went well, except for the outbursts from the floor by Don Grundmann.
Bottomline, the party is going great. Ambassador
Dr. Alan Keyes did a great job as head of the ticket in 2008.
Again a warning both James King and Don Grundmann
hold no office in the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, Ameriican Independent Party
I was wondering Mark, how was that meeting in which you guys disaffiliated from the CP legitimate?
” I know of no “conspiracy to commit fraud†on the part of either the Hills, Robinson, Noonan, and/or
with Seidenberg (myself).”
Response : So said the consumate liar who worked to file fake papers with the state; papers he knew to be false. ” The wheels of justice grind slowly but they grind exceedingly fine.” Yes, Mark, you have escaped to this moment. But justice is coming. Each day draws your end that much closer. You, Robinson, Noonan, the Hills, Tom Hoefling, and ( especially ) Alan Keyes will all answer for your crimes. You WILL be brought to justice and it will be a wonderful day for humanity when you are all finally shattered and destroyed.
Cody : The ” meeting ” where the so-called disaffiliation occurred was a PHONE ” meeting ” on less that 11 hours notice and designed to be kept from the knowledge of the majority of the committee of whom there were 17 total members at the time of the meeting. At MOST there were 7 people on that call; obviously not a quorum for the conduct of business even if the call/meeting was legal/legitimate which it was not. But that did not bother the conspirators as they claimed their tiny vote to be valid in disaffiliating the AIP from the CP and filed their fraud documents with the SOS office on the basis of their ” meeting.” A complete out and out total fraud and lie from start to finish. It is for this lie that they shall be prosecuted and destroyed. Their end and the jail time which they receive will be richly deserved. It will be a happy and sun shining day when Mark Seidenberg is convicted of fraud and conspiracy. I will be there to celebrate his entrance into jail along with Robinson, Noonan, and the Hills. That day will be a banner day for justice and humanity as a whole as outright evil will be stopped and sent to jail. That red-letter day of celebration is coming just as the exposure and fall of Alan Keyes will be right beside it.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Cody, you asked “How was that meeting in which you
guys disaffiliated from the CP legitmate”? It was
done by a majority vote of the AIP State Central
Committee, as a result of the action of the AIP
State Central Committee first affiliation with the America’s Independent Party of Fenton, MI. Prior
to the vote, I spoke with several high officials with the CP to find out if we crossed all T’s
and doted all the I’s. We followed the California Election Code and the by laws of the AIP to the
letter. We check with a lawyer and with the officials of the California Secretary of State.
I recall talking even to Gary Odom, about Grace
Hills request if CP would return to her part of
fees she paid to the CP. The answer from Gary Odom
was no, which I passed on to Mrs. Hill.
Does that answer you question Cody?
Next, Don Grundmann is wrong again. It was not a
telephone meeting, but an online meeting. People
did use telephones to talk with each other, but all
votes were taken on line. We were following the
rules established at the Secremento meeting that
even Don Grundmann voted for in year 2007, that was
the same meeting that Rayna Mike King was removed
from both the National Committee and State Central
Committee for being registered as Republican in Los
Angeles County. As I recall the only person that spoke against the on-line voting was David C. at
that meeting.
Again a warning, James King and Don Grundmann are not officers of the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
Don Grundmann is now claiming that the total members of the entire state central committee of
the American Independent Party at the time the
American Independent Party voted to affiliate with
the America’s Independent Party was a grand total
of 17 person. Don Grundmann for some reason was
low balling the number of members at that time
period, which was not correct.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
American Independent Party.
Cody : In 14 & 15 above Mark continues to do the only thing he knows how to do and hence can ever do – lie through his teeth and never stop lying. It is a fantastic lie that the disaffiliation vote was by a majority of the Central Committee. You will notice his weasel words and how he does not address the reality that only 7 people at most were on his phone ” meeting.” If it is true that I am ” low balling ” the Central Committee count ( which I am not as that count can be proven ) then his high total of 7 on his phone meeting call was even worse ( farther away from a quorum ) than if it was 17 on the committee. He and his fellow rats openly violated the by-laws of the party. He knows this as does anyone involved and yet he openly lies about it. He is beyond simply being a pathological liar. He is simply a total psychotic. Fortunately he will soon be a jailed total psychotic along with his criminal partners of Robinson, Noonan, and the Hills. What a blessing it will be to see them all behind bars. It will be a glorious victory for the Republic when open criminals such as these are stopped and punished for their criminality and total to-the-bone corruption.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Don Grundmann stated: “You will notice his weasel
words and how he [Seidenberg] does not address the
reality that only 7 people at the most were on his
phone meeting”.
I know that Dr. Don Grundmann has a problem with
telling people from animals, e.g., “weasel words”,
“[h]e and his fellow rats”, “Seidenberg and his
fellow lying rats”, “It was a convention that the
lying rats could have attended but chose not to”,
& etc. Even though Dr. Grundmann views some of the
members of the AIP state central committee as “non
human” it does not make it so.
There are no meeting of the central committee of the American Independent Party conducted on the
telephone. AIP meetings are either conducted in
person or on line. During on line meetings members
use the telephone if they want to talk to each other. However, the meeting part is conducted on
line. Therefore, Dr. Don Grundmann is wrong again.
Warning, James King and Don Grundmann are not officers of the American Independent Party. There
terms as members of the AIP national committee ended before, September 3, 2008. They are just members of the AIP State Central Committee. I am
informed also that the past chairman Edward Noonan
removed Dr. Don Grundmann from his office of Area Director, prior to Mr. Noonan term of office ending.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
Cody : As you can see in #17 above Mark is simply incapable of being anything other than a weasel and doing anything but lying. Notice that he yet again avoids addressing the number of people on his phone call while he attempts a diversion by referring to it as ” on-line.” Marks example of Noonans actions regarding me is simply further confirmation of what Noonan did – arbitrarily decide who could vote or not vote based on his own whim. If you kiss his butt you can vote. If you kick his butt you can’t. The AIP NEVER had a ” on-line ” Central Committee meeting until Mark Robinson, Seidenberg, and Noonan created it out of thin air to cover for and advance their corruption. I am thankful though to Mark for writing the above as it can be used as evidence against him. He will soon be a jailed weasel along with his fellow rats.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Cody:
First, Dr. Don Grundmann acknowledged that he was removed by past Chairman Ed Noonan as an area director of the AIP, prior to the end of Mr. Noonan
term (mid-night on September 2 – 3, 2008 (two year
term). Mr. Mark Robinson started his two year term
at that point in time.
Second, I was first elected Vice Chairman of the American Independent Party on September 3, 2006
in Sacramento (as required under the California Election Code and By-Laws of the party. I am now
in my second term. My term does not end until mid-
night on September 2 – 3, 2010 (and only if the
AIP has an elected replacement).
Third, As I posted on July 6, 2008 at 9:47 a.m.
(site time) [even though I was in Sacramento at
that time] in Third Party Watch, “Conventions of
the AIP must be conducted in Sacramento, because
of California Election Code sections 7608(b) and
7620.” The party has no choice. That is the law.
I for one would like that law amended so the
State Central Committee could pick a location
on its own, rather than limiting the central committee’s choice location within Sacramento.
No other party in the State of California has
such a restriction placed on its State Central
Committee.
Dr. Don Grundmann, states that a “convention”
took place in Los Angeles. Los Angeles is not
part of Sacramento. The 2008 Convention of the
American Independent Party took place in Sacramento
in the Auditorium of the California Secretary of
State on July 5, 2008. Therefore, Dr.
Don Grundmann event in Los Angeles could not have
been a Convention of the American Independent Party. Dr. Don Grundmann was present and spoke
to the other delegates from the floor at that 2008
Convention in Sacramento on July 5, 2008. James
King unlike Dr. Don Grundmann was a no-show. James
King was also a no-show at the organizational meeting of the Los Angeles County Central Committee of 2008. That left Mr. Elliott Graham with no quorum to conduct business that day.
This then put the State Central Committee with the
job of setting up a new central committee for Los
Angeles County. I am the area director covering
Los Angeles County, if anyone reading this refutation has an interest in being on the new
Los Angeles County Central Committee, drop a line
to Chairman Mark Robinson, he will forward it to me and I will reply.
Warning: James King and Dr. Don Grundmann are not officers of the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party.
Cody : You will notice that the Weasel does not address the fraud and corruption which he, Robinson, Noonan, and the Hills committed with their fake vote. The Weasel refers to Ed removing me from any post. It must be true that he did since that is his style – the spontaneous disqualification of anyone who would vote against him. But it is especially his style to be a coward in that he never informed me of any such ” dismissal.” That is, just as with his ultra-corrupt pals of Robinson and ” The Weasel,” the essence of Ed Noonan – a backstabbing coward.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Cody: I now of no “fake vote” from the meetings of the State Central Committee of the American Independent Party. The votes of the State Central
Committee are real.
It should be noted that the State Central Committee
adopted “Webster’s New World Robert’s Rules of Order Simpliified and Applied, Second Edition, by Robert McConnell Production [ISBN 9780764563997].
Therefore the party does not allow “fake voting”.
All voting is for real.
Don Grundmann is not an officer of the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party.
Cody,
From the Superior Court Clerk in Fairfield, CA in case #FCS033119 a complaint for declaratory and injuntive relief between James King (Plaintiff) and
Markham Robinson (Defendant), I received a copy of
documents filed in the case.
In the complaint on page 2, lines 26 – 27 it makes
reference to an affidavit of James King as verified facts. However his attorney failed to lodge with the complaint a copy of that affidavit,
if in fact a copy ever existed in the first place.
My guess using a Brewtown lawyer was one of many
problem Mr. King will be faced with in this lawsuit. Another problem with the events in Los
Angeles was that Conventions of the American Independent Party must be in Sacramento. Los
Angeles is not a part of Sacramento. The California Election Code sections 7608(b) and 7620 require the conventions of the American Independent Party to be in Sacramento. However, on July 5, 2008, the California Secretary of State provided her Auditorium at the Sacramento Secretary of State Building for the American Independent Party to use for a convention.
I was elected chairman of the convention by the delegates to the 2008 AIP Convention. Dr. Don Grundmann showed up and spoke from the floor at the convention in his normal way, attacking the delegates for not voting the way he wanted. This type of speech from Dr. Grundmann was heard before, viz., at the CP convention in Kansas City in April 2008.
Further, at the Kansas City CP Convention I was the proxy holder of James King who directed me to cast his vote for Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes for President.
The bottom line the only Convention in 2008 of the
American Independent Party took place in Sacramento, CA on July 5, 2008 in the Auditorium
of the California Secretary of State Building.
Dr. Don Grundmann who was active in the event of the week prior (thereby calling himself a Vice
Chairman) shows up the following week in Sacramento
to attend the Convention of AIP.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
P.S. Warning both Don Grundmann and James King hold
no office with the American Independent Party.
” Cody: I now of no “fake vote†from the meetings of the State Central Committee of the American Independent Party. The votes of the State Central
Committee are real.
It should be noted that the State Central Committee
adopted “Webster’s New World Robert’s Rules of Order Simpliified and Applied, Second Edition, by Robert McConnell Production [ISBN 9780764563997].
Therefore the party does not allow “fake votingâ€.
All voting is for real.”
Response : Cody – Notice that The Weasel STILL avoids the facts of his rat phone vote and particularly the less than quorum numbers that they then used to produce their fake document for the SOS office. His comment of adopting Roberts Rules is so typical of these god-forsaken and damned rats as Robinson beat his chest that he ” always follows the rules ” which he does until he decides to break them. So they will claim that they ” adopted ” Roberts Rules and then go right out and break those rules. Just another outward expression of their inner corruption.
” Dr. Don Grundmann showed up and spoke from the floor at the convention in his normal way, attacking the delegates for not voting the way he wanted. This type of speech from Dr. Grundmann was heard before, viz., at the CP convention in Kansas City in April 2008.”
Response : I have NEVER called anyone other than Robinson, Noonan, and Seidenberg ” Judas.” I attacked these god-damned liars for their corruption and the corruption of their ” vote;” the sole reason for my attendance at their fake Sacramento ” convention.” If we had had a honest vote and my side lost I would never complain but the rats knew that they could not win any honest vote and they hence had to resort to actions which expressed their true character = lying, lying, lying, lying, and lying some more. Fortunately their end is coming very soon.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Cody:
Dr. Don Grundmann just stated that he “NEVER called
anyone other than Robinson, Noonan, and Seidenberg
“Judas”. However, he had a very expanded list of
Judases at the Conventions in Kansas City and Sacramento. Noonan was not in Kansas City.
The convention in Sacramento was not a fake Convention on July 5, 2008. It was conducted
under Webster’s New World Robert’s Rules of Order
Simplifiied and Applied, Second Edition at an Auditorium of the California Secretary of State
Building.
All meeting and conventions of the American Independent Party had a quorum in 2008 that I attended, exect the
2008 organizational meeting for the Los Angeles
County Central Committee. The reason was that James
King was a no show. Elliott Graham was one vote
short of a quorum because of the no-show Jim King.
Waring Jim King and Don Grundmann are not officers
of the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
One document filed in this case was an “AFFIDAVIT OF PERSONEL SERVICE” Form # 65 Rev.7/02. It is dated 3-16-09 and signed by a purported Deputy Clerk of the Court [Superior Court of California,
County of Solano, with the address box checked to
600 Union Avenue, Fairfild, CA 94533.
It states in the body that “the undersign, certify under penalty of perjury that I am employed by a
deputy clerk of the above-entitled court and not a
sonally served party to the within-entitled action, that I personally served the attached [ ]
Notice of Case Management Conference [ ]Notice
of Case Management Conference [ ] Notice of Disminnal Hearing [ ]Notice of Collection Cases
on the person shown below:
REPRESENATIVE Kevin Brackett For One Legal (Law firm/pro per).
Since non of the above three areas are not checked,
I am a loss as to what this Affidavit is used for
and what this document means.
If anyone out there that has a understanding as to
purpose and meaning of this documents please post an answer.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
P.S. Dr. Don Grundmann and James King holds no office in the American Independent Party.
Just read a purported “Declaration of Ann Thomas” that was submitted by a Brewtown lawyer of James
King in KING v. ROBINSON. I have real concern that
Ann E. Thomas is the author of this declaration for
the following reason. At # 9 it states in part Noonan also replaced Larry Brazeale and Rayna King
with Merton Short and Elliot (sic.) Grahm (sic.).
I know of no one in the American Independent Party
named Elliot Grahm. The State Central Committee voted to fill the empty seat that was held by Rayna
Mike King (who was registered in Los Angeles County
as a Republic) it was not done by then Chairman Ed
Noonan, The AIP State Central Committee elected long time party activist Elliott S. Graham. Ann E.
Thomas knows how to spell Mr. Graham’s name correctly.
The other reason I question that this was not done
by Ann E. Thomas was that at # 1 it states that “I
have personal knowledge of the facts asserted herein, and if called upon to testify to said facts, could do so competently.” I recall that
she walked out of the 2007 AIP State Central meeting that replaced the open spots of officers
of the AIP (American Independent Party). Therefore
I question that this was authored by Ann E. Thomas,
because I do not believe Ann E. Thomas would state
that Ed Noonan was the source of the appontments,
when it was AIP State Central Committee that made the appointments.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
” Dr. Don Grundmann just stated that he “NEVER called anyone other than Robinson, Noonan, and Seidenberg “Judasâ€. However, he had a very expanded list of Judases at the Conventions in Kansas City and Sacramento.”
Response : Mark – This is yet another lie of your endless stream of lies as you and Mark Robinson were the only Judases at Kansas City. Alan Keyes was simply a fake and a Satan to begin with. May you be damned for your evil and your never ending corruption.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Don Grundmann and the California Delegation in Kansas City. After Don Grundmann could get no
support for President from the entire California
Delegation (other than himself he call all of the
fellow delegates with-in ear shot “Juases”‘
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg Vice Chairmman, American Independent Party.
First I will correct spelling error in last posting. The word should have been spelled “Judases”.
Second, both Don Grundmann and James King voted for
Ed Noonan for Chairman at the September 3, 2006 organizational meeting in Sacramento (County) of
the American Independent Party. The term for Mr.
Ed Noonan was a Two Year term. He took office on
September 3, 2006. Ed Noonan served out his entire
two year term and one of his last acts was to remove Dr. Don Grundmann from the office of area director under the authority of the by-laws of the
AIP. Is Dr. Don Grundmann now claiming he had a senior moment for his loss of retrospection?
Dr. Don Grundmann makes reference to a “Convention” in Los Angeles. However there could have been no convention outside of Sacramento, because the California Election Code
Sections 7608(b) and 7620, require the convention
and organizational meeting of the state central committee in Sacramento. All I see is Ann E. Thomas caused events in Los Angeles that had no
legal effect on the term of office for Ed Noonan
as Chairman.
Don Grundmann did show up at the real convention in
Sacramento on July 5, 2008. James King and Don Grundmann are not officers of the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
” Don Grundmann and the California Delegation in Kansas City. After Don Grundmann could get no
support for President from the entire California
Delegation (other than himself he call all of the
fellow delegates with-in ear shot “Juasesâ€â€˜”
Response : This is yet another god-damned lie from the god-damned Mark Seidenberg. I had multiple supporters for my candidacy from California separate from those who chose to stab me in the back. I called no one ” Judas ” at Kansas City except for a private conversation reference to Mark Robinson who I did not identity by name at the time. Mark – May God damn you for your complete evil, never ending lies, and corruption.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Cody:
I guess we are having a private conversation right now. So when Dr. Don Grundmann. who had no one on
the Californio delegation (other than himself) to cast a vote for him as a endorsement to become the
President of the United States in Kansas City Convention of the Constitution Party, he was just
calling Markham Robinson a “Judas”, because he was
using “Weasel” for Seidenberg and “Satan” for Alan Keyes. Therefore, Dr. Grundmann yelling “Judases”
and “30 pieces of silver” in front of the California delegation after the first pole that I
conducted with Charles Deemer, Grundmann was just
having a private conversation with himself. Wow, that is news to me.
First thing one need to know is the Convention of
the American Independent Party is a meeting of the
Delegates to the Convention and not a meeting of the State Central Committee. When Don Grundmann
undersigned a “petition for a call to convention
to be held on Saturday, June 28, 2008, at Los Angeles, CA, with a State Central Committee meeting to follow on June 29, 2008”, James King,
only petitioned for a call to convention and did
not petition for a meeting of the State Central
Committee. Therefore, Jim King did not petition
for a meeting of the State Central Committee on
June 29, 2008. Therefore, there was no majority
of the “party’s elected officers including the National Committee members” calling a meeting
of the State Central Committee for June 29, 2008
or any other date.
The organizational meeting for 2008 of the AIP State Central Committee took place in the Auditorum of the California Secretary of State Building in Sacramento, California on July 6, 2008, with Chairman Ed Noonan calling it to order. Markham Robinson was elected for a term
of two year follow the term of Chairman Ed Noonan
two year term.
Therefore James King and Don Grundmann are not officers of the American Independent Party.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
” Therefore, Dr. Grundmann yelling “Judasesâ€
and “30 pieces of silver†in front of the California delegation after the first pole that I
conducted with Charles Deemer,”
Response : Mark – I told you that you are a Judas and got your 30 pieces at Sacramento, not Kansas City. So this is yet another complete lie. You KNOW, like with so many other things you state, that it is a lie. WHY do you continuously lie? To inflate your ego? To cover up your corruption and your crimes? You cannot stop them from coming out. You cannot, and will not, avoid being exposed. So long ago you could have just told the truth – even once. People would have so much more respect for you. Now you have reduced yourself to a below-the-barrel rat; a total psychotic liar. You could have helped the party and indeed the entire nation. But you chose betrayal instead. Don’t whine when it finally all catches up with you. Your suffering will be well deserved and well earned as you will have brought it all on by your own actions.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Cody:
Dr. Don Grundmann first yelled to the California Delegation at the Kansas City Convention of the
Constituion Party in April, 2008 the following:
“Judases” & “30 pieces of silver” after he could
not pick up even one other supporter (other than
himself at the first straw pole) conducted by
Charles Deemer and myself. Grundmann next repeats
this form of speech at Sacramento, California
on July 5, 2008 at the Convention of the American
Independent Party.
Next Don Grundmann and James King are not officer
of the American Independent Party and have not served as National Committeemen since September 2, 2008. They are only members of the AIP state central committee.
I am informed that the Secretary of the AIP, Ann E.
Thomas who lives at the home of the late William
Shearer in Lemon Grove, CA, was the source of the so-called “PETITION FOR CALL TO CONVENTION & STATE
CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEETING”. It should be noted here that Ann E. Thomas was the elected secretary
in 2006 for a two year term. She has never been a
member of the State Central Committee. Therefore,
she had no authority to call to order a meeting of
the State Central Committee. Likewise, Ann E. Thomas was not a delegate to the 2006 or 2008 Convention of the American Independent Party, so
she also had no authority to call that body to order either.
Next, the California Election Code at sections 7608(b) and 7620 with the bylaws of the AIP allow for
the convention and organizational meeting of the
state central committee only in Sacramento. Further while Dr. Don Grundmann signed a “petition”
with Ann E. Thomas address of 8158 Palm Street, Lemon Grove, CA 91945 at the top for “a call to
convention to be held on Saturday, June 28, 2008
at Los Angeles, CA, with a State Central Committee
meeting to follow on June 29, 2008”. That so-called “petition” was not sent to then State Chairman Ed Noonan or myself as the Vice Chairman
of the American Independent Party. That is why
the events in Los Angeles of June 28 & 29, 2008 is
known by the party officers as the “Cabal Events”.
When I ask as the Vice Chairman of Ann E. Thomas for copies of that bogus “petition” she told me that “I am not going to give you a G-d dam thing”.
From the exhibits filed by James King’s Brewtown
lawyer, only eight persons signed that bogus “petition”, viz., Ann Thomas as Secretary (who was a non-member officer of the state central
committee); Warren Campbell as Chaplain; Don Grundmann as a National Committee member; Charles
Deemer as the Treasurer & Nat. Comm; Tabatha Saavedra as Organizational Liaison; Al Huey as
National Committee member; Merton Short as National
Committee member; & an entry for someone named Elliott Grahm (sic.) with a signature that looks like that of Elliott S. Graham (if he did in fact
sign that bogus so called “petition”.
Cody, you should note that there were 21 offices in
the AIP. So eight (or nine by counting Mr. Deemer twice) does not make a majority. Does Don Grundmann know that eleven is the majority of 21?
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Now Jim King on May 18, 2008 does his own bogus
“Petition For Call To Convention” with no one else
signing same. He does not call for a meeting of the
State Central Committee nor does he send a copy to
me as the Vice Chairman of the party. I am informed he did not even send a copy to Chairman
Noonan. However, Jim King as a former Chairman of
the party knew the Convention had to be held in
Sacramento. Just because Jim King wants to hold
a convention a week earlier than the July 5, 2008,
the state central committee could not have done so.
Because we could not get the Auditorium of the California Secretary of State Building the prior
weekend. The AIP does not revolve around Jim King.
I for one was in Dublin, Ireland working to Stop the ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon and protect the sovereignty of the nations of Europe.
In addition to being Vice Chairman of the AIP, I
am also the Vice Chairman of State Department Watch, Ltd. a foreign policy watchdog organization.
Prior to my work on stopping the Treaty of Lisbon,
I was in Greenland to cover the John Negroponte’s
delegation for Secretary of State Rice to the
summit on Law of the Sea as it effects the Arctic.
Even Charles Deemer helped me with this project,
by coming up with a great statement, viz., “DEEP SIX LOST TO DAVY JONES LOCKER”.
Just because Ann E. Thomas calls to order two events in Los Angeles in some hotel near the
Los Angeles Airport does not give the cabal
the right to hijack the American Independent Party.
Botton line both Don Grundmann and Jim King hold
no office in the AIP.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American
Independent Party.
Does this GUY Bill Lussenheide have the backing of the AIP for his congressional run in CA (49 district)?
His website says he is with constitution
Party, But his candidate info says he is running under AIP? This guy can’t have it both ways.
It doesn’t matter what party I run under
as long as it achieves MY goals. Heck,
I didn’t even vote for 20 years. I am just a window washer trying to get by.
Reply to post # 36 from Bill Lussenheide. John Walker has a point, I read on posts of Dr. Don
Grundmann that the American Independent Party is
a branch of the Constitution Party and that a convention of the American Independent Party took
place in Los Angeles on Thursday, June 26, 2008
and Friday, June 27, 2008. Yet, on June 27, 2008,
at a meeting of the state central committee of the
American Independent Party we passed a resolution
affilating with the America’s Independent Party of
Fenton, Michigan. The following day James King at
a Los Angeles hotel throws a wad of paper in my face and yells at me. I opened the wad and noticed it was one of the 33,000 notices of that affliation with the America’s Independent Party issued by AIP party chairman Ed Noonan. Also on,
June 28, 2008 and June 29, 2008, Ann E. Thomas a
non-delegate, but non-member Secretary of the AIP
State Central Committee calls to “order” a bugus
cabal and claimed that it was a “convention”.
The 2008 American Independent Party Convention was
conducted on July 5, 2008 at the California Secretary of State Building within its auditorum. At that convention Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes was
selected to run for President and Dr. Wiley Drake
was selected for Vice President.
It is a requirement of California Election Codes
7608(b) and 7620 that both the AIP convention and
organizational state central committee meeting be
in Sacramento.
Last year, James King filed a lawsuit against Chairman Ed Noonan, the State Printer, & California Secretary of State, claiming that the
State Central Meeting on September 3, 2006 was void
because it was conducted in Rancho Cordova and not
in the city limits of Sacramento. Rancho Cordova
is located in the county limits of Sacramento County. Subsection 7608(b) just states the State
Central Committee must be in Sacramento it does not state either if Sacramento is ment by city or
county. The court ruled that Sacramento would include the county under California Election Code
subsection 7608(b).
Since, Mr. Lussenheide, is the California State
Contact for the Constitution Party, does the CP
plan to qualify as a recognized political party
in California for the 2010 election?
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party