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	<title>Comments on: Maine Governor Signs Bill on How Party Remains on the Ballot</title>
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		<title>By: ME Green Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>ME Green Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using a percentage rather than a fixed number was discussed with the legislation&#039;s sponsor. The concern with a fixed percentage was if a percentage of lets say 5 was chosen and a small party (say 1000 members strong) would only need a small number of members (50 people) to vote to stay on the ballot. 
Interestingly enough, the Secretary of State&#039;s office was concerned that the 10,000 member threshold disapportionately affects the MGIP. 10,000 is only about 3% of the Reps and Dems, and almost 30% of our party. I think the compromise is 3% but not less than 5000. Perhaps next session...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using a percentage rather than a fixed number was discussed with the legislation&#8217;s sponsor. The concern with a fixed percentage was if a percentage of lets say 5 was chosen and a small party (say 1000 members strong) would only need a small number of members (50 people) to vote to stay on the ballot.<br />
Interestingly enough, the Secretary of State&#8217;s office was concerned that the 10,000 member threshold disapportionately affects the MGIP. 10,000 is only about 3% of the Reps and Dems, and almost 30% of our party. I think the compromise is 3% but not less than 5000. Perhaps next session&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deemer from California</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deemer from California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:
Does any other state currently or has any in the past used this prinicple to determine how a party stays ballot qualified? Not knowing just how many members will actually vote makes a party vulnerable when there is a non-controversial major election. It would have been better if they had just chosen a fixed percentage of the gubernatorial or presidential general election vote. Presumably this makes it easier for any 3rd party
to remain on the ballot after a Presidential election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:<br />
Does any other state currently or has any in the past used this prinicple to determine how a party stays ballot qualified? Not knowing just how many members will actually vote makes a party vulnerable when there is a non-controversial major election. It would have been better if they had just chosen a fixed percentage of the gubernatorial or presidential general election vote. Presumably this makes it easier for any 3rd party<br />
to remain on the ballot after a Presidential election.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Maine Libertarian Party, or the Maine Constitution Party, or the Maine Working Families Party, were to file a notice with the state saying that the party intends to do the 5% petition for party status, the state would start keeping track of its registrants.  If such an unqualified party actually got 10,000 registrants, and at least 10,000 of them voted in a general election, such a party would have a strong legal and moral case that it should be recognized also.  The US Supreme Court said in Williams v Rhodes that states cannot discriminate against new parties and in favor of old parties.  If a new party met the requirements that old parties must meet, it ought to be able to win a lawsuit to get recognized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Maine Libertarian Party, or the Maine Constitution Party, or the Maine Working Families Party, were to file a notice with the state saying that the party intends to do the 5% petition for party status, the state would start keeping track of its registrants.  If such an unqualified party actually got 10,000 registrants, and at least 10,000 of them voted in a general election, such a party would have a strong legal and moral case that it should be recognized also.  The US Supreme Court said in Williams v Rhodes that states cannot discriminate against new parties and in favor of old parties.  If a new party met the requirements that old parties must meet, it ought to be able to win a lawsuit to get recognized.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/06/19/maine-governor-signs-bill-on-how-party-remains-on-the-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-737070</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does this affect the LPME up there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does this affect the LPME up there?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Winger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Winger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Britain recognizes DemoRep&#039;s principle.  In Great Britain, there is no such thing as a &quot;qualified political party&quot; for ballot access purposes.  But the habit of giving a group special privileges because it polled a substantial vote in the last election is very strongly rooted in the U.S.  It&#039;s not easy to overcome 120 years of U.S. history.

The new Maine law is a step in Demo Rep&#039;s direction, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Britain recognizes DemoRep&#8217;s principle.  In Great Britain, there is no such thing as a &#8220;qualified political party&#8221; for ballot access purposes.  But the habit of giving a group special privileges because it polled a substantial vote in the last election is very strongly rooted in the U.S.  It&#8217;s not easy to overcome 120 years of U.S. history.</p>
<p>The new Maine law is a step in Demo Rep&#8217;s direction, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Demo Rep</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/06/19/maine-governor-signs-bill-on-how-party-remains-on-the-ballot/comment-page-1/#comment-736925</link>
		<dc:creator>Demo Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every election is N-E-W and has ZERO to do with any prior election -- much too hard for MORON judges to understand.

P.R. and A.V. before it is too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every election is N-E-W and has ZERO to do with any prior election &#8212; much too hard for MORON judges to understand.</p>
<p>P.R. and A.V. before it is too late.</p>
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