Comments on: Minnesota TV Stations Sue County Over Access to 2008 Absentee Ballots http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:38:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=652 By: John http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-766864 John Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:50:18 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-766864 Granted a recount would only add to history and no help right now but that same history will be important in the next election. Granted a recount would only add to history and no help right now but that same history will be important in the next election.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-766238 Jeffrey Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:02:59 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-766238 OK, sure; if he was convicted of a felony, he would lose his seat. But arguing in court as to which ballots should or shouldn't be counted, which is what both campaigns did, is hardly voter fraud, nor did anyone from the Coleman side allege fraud. And the Minnesota courts reviewed the count 3x and found no fraud. And the Governor (a Republicam) certified the election. All a panel of journalists could do is review the ballots and say that in their opinion Coleman won or Franken won. It would have no more legal validity than the count by newspapers that said Gore won Florida in 2000. As I recall, Bush remained in office despite that and was even re-elected. OK, sure; if he was convicted of a felony, he would lose his seat. But arguing in court as to which ballots should or shouldn’t be counted, which is what both campaigns did, is hardly voter fraud, nor did anyone from the Coleman side allege fraud. And the Minnesota courts reviewed the count 3x and found no fraud. And the Governor (a Republicam) certified the election.

All a panel of journalists could do is review the ballots and say that in their opinion Coleman won or Franken won. It would have no more legal validity than the count by newspapers that said Gore won Florida in 2000. As I recall, Bush remained in office despite that and was even re-elected.

]]> By: bstrent http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-766232 bstrent Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:32:32 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-766232 thats not so......the Senate can only remove seated Senators for perjury/ethics violations voter fraud is another case; voter fraud is a criminal offence that only a FEDERAL judge can oversee. Granted to make a case of it; itd have to be proved that Franken or his campaign was directly involved in keeping votes from being counted; and if that was done and Franken was committed of the crime; hed lose the seat automatically due to a felony conviction thats not so……the Senate can only remove seated Senators for perjury/ethics violations voter fraud is another case; voter fraud is a criminal offence that only a FEDERAL judge can oversee. Granted to make a case of it; itd have to be proved that Franken or his campaign was directly involved in keeping votes from being counted; and if that was done and Franken was committed of the crime; hed lose the seat automatically due to a felony conviction

]]> By: Jeffrey http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-766189 Jeffrey Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:15:13 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-766189 #4-I believe you are incorrect. A seated Senator can only be removed by the votes of 2/3 of the Senate. There is no provision for any judge, including the SCOTUS, to remove elected officials once they are seated. As I said, I think the ballots should be open to public view, but any count will be of historical interest only. #4-I believe you are incorrect. A seated Senator can only be removed by the votes of 2/3 of the Senate. There is no provision for any judge, including the SCOTUS, to remove elected officials once they are seated. As I said, I think the ballots should be open to public view, but any count will be of historical interest only.

]]> By: bstrent http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-765846 bstrent Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:48:12 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-765846 Actually Coleman could get the seat back if a certified affidavit says the exclusion of those ballots altered the outcome of the race. At the least he could tie it up leaving the seat vacant for any length of time. But thats only if the excluded ballots are found to have overwhelmingly changed the count. Be a nice little voter fraud case at least. Actually Coleman could get the seat back if a certified affidavit says the exclusion of those ballots altered the outcome of the race. At the least he could tie it up leaving the seat vacant for any length of time. But thats only if the excluded ballots are found to have overwhelmingly changed the count. Be a nice little voter fraud case at least.

]]> By: Rationality and Science Education http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-765667 Rationality and Science Education Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:00:07 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-765667 San Diego County [California] has gone thru a new Elections top official every 20 months or so ...... ----- Donald Raymond Lake, Citizens For A Better Veterans Home San Diego County [California] has gone thru a new Elections top official every 20 months or so ……

—– Donald Raymond Lake,

Citizens For A Better Veterans Home

]]> By: Jeffrey http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-765659 Jeffrey Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:02:16 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-765659 Anyone who wants to should be able to examine the ballots. However, don't delude yourself that Coleman is getting back his seat, anymore than Gore got the Presidency following the media's count. The election is over and Franken is the Senator and no media count (or anything else) will change that. Anyone who wants to should be able to examine the ballots. However, don’t delude yourself that Coleman is getting back his seat, anymore than Gore got the Presidency following the media’s count. The election is over and Franken is the Senator and no media count (or anything else) will change that.

]]> By: bstrent http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/08/10/minnesota-tv-stations-sue-county-over-access-to-2008-absentee-ballots/comment-page-1/#comment-765637 bstrent Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:27:14 +0000 http://www.ballot-access.org/?p=7591#comment-765637 its simple.....those absentee ballots would give Norm Coleman back his Senate Seat its simple…..those absentee ballots would give Norm Coleman back his Senate Seat

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