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	<title>Comments on: Minnesota Bill for Earlier Primary Advances</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/02/09/minnesota-bill-for-earlier-primary-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-784908</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You apparently are unwilling to understand the model of party qualification used in Texas.

In California, voters must change their party registration well in advance of the nominating activity, declaring that they intend to affiliate with the new party at the next primary.  If the party fails to qualify, they are not permitted to vote in any primary.

In Texas, a new party simply organizes its nominating activities, and if enough voters show up, then both the nominations and the party are recognized by the State.  Parties, primaries, and conventions are organized on a county-by-county basis in Texas.  So some voters who support the new party are unable to attend a convention.  The state lets the new party augment the lists of precinct convention attendees with a petition.  Any voter who did not attend a convention may sign the petition and effectively affiliate with the new party and its initial nominating activities.

Imagine you had two voters.  One said that in his voting lifetime there had been 9 independent candidates for Congress in his entire state.  The other said that the same was true for him.

One is 30 years old, and the other 60.  Which is from California, and which is from Texas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You apparently are unwilling to understand the model of party qualification used in Texas.</p>
<p>In California, voters must change their party registration well in advance of the nominating activity, declaring that they intend to affiliate with the new party at the next primary.  If the party fails to qualify, they are not permitted to vote in any primary.</p>
<p>In Texas, a new party simply organizes its nominating activities, and if enough voters show up, then both the nominations and the party are recognized by the State.  Parties, primaries, and conventions are organized on a county-by-county basis in Texas.  So some voters who support the new party are unable to attend a convention.  The state lets the new party augment the lists of precinct convention attendees with a petition.  Any voter who did not attend a convention may sign the petition and effectively affiliate with the new party and its initial nominating activities.</p>
<p>Imagine you had two voters.  One said that in his voting lifetime there had been 9 independent candidates for Congress in his entire state.  The other said that the same was true for him.</p>
<p>One is 30 years old, and the other 60.  Which is from California, and which is from Texas?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Winger</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/02/09/minnesota-bill-for-earlier-primary-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-784860</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Winger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texas is no model.  By keeping the person who placed third in the presidential elections of 1972, 1984, 2004, and 2008 off its presidential ballot, Texas injured voting rights and also increased the cost of election administration (because it costs more to count write-in votes than votes for people on the ballot).  Victims of Texas&#039; law were voters who wanted to vote for John Schmitz in 1972, David Bergland in 1984, Ralph Nader in 2004 and 2008.

Texas is the only state that won&#039;t let primary voters sing a new party petition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas is no model.  By keeping the person who placed third in the presidential elections of 1972, 1984, 2004, and 2008 off its presidential ballot, Texas injured voting rights and also increased the cost of election administration (because it costs more to count write-in votes than votes for people on the ballot).  Victims of Texas&#8217; law were voters who wanted to vote for John Schmitz in 1972, David Bergland in 1984, Ralph Nader in 2004 and 2008.</p>
<p>Texas is the only state that won&#8217;t let primary voters sing a new party petition.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/02/09/minnesota-bill-for-earlier-primary-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-784857</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is certainly a rational and reasonable decision by Minnesota to treat all qualified parties (including newly qualified parties) in the same manner and require them to nominate by primary.

It is to be expected that pushing back the mailing deadline for overseas ballots will have an effect on all earlier deadlines.  This is why it would have been a more desirable solution for the federal government to operate overseas polling stations at military bases, embassies, and consulates.  But simply pushing back deadlines was a no-brainer.  That is why it would be expected that Congress would choose that solution.

In Texas, qualification and nomination are integrated.  A new party qualifies based on the number of voters who participate in the initial stage of their conventions (supplemented by signatures of voters who did not attend).  And existing small parties also nominate by convention, and the precinct conventions and primaries are contemporaneous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is certainly a rational and reasonable decision by Minnesota to treat all qualified parties (including newly qualified parties) in the same manner and require them to nominate by primary.</p>
<p>It is to be expected that pushing back the mailing deadline for overseas ballots will have an effect on all earlier deadlines.  This is why it would have been a more desirable solution for the federal government to operate overseas polling stations at military bases, embassies, and consulates.  But simply pushing back deadlines was a no-brainer.  That is why it would be expected that Congress would choose that solution.</p>
<p>In Texas, qualification and nomination are integrated.  A new party qualifies based on the number of voters who participate in the initial stage of their conventions (supplemented by signatures of voters who did not attend).  And existing small parties also nominate by convention, and the precinct conventions and primaries are contemporaneous.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/02/09/minnesota-bill-for-earlier-primary-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-784852</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t follow logically that the Minnesota procedure for a new ballot-qualified party necessarily means Minnesota must provide a primary for that party.  22 states provide that newly-qualifying ballot-qualified parties nominate by convention...Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Wyoming.  Some of these states give the newly-qualifying party a choice.  If they turn in signature early they get a primary; otherwise they nominate by convention.  The National Civic Leaague, in 1951, recommended that newly-qualifying parties nominate by convention in order to save the government money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t follow logically that the Minnesota procedure for a new ballot-qualified party necessarily means Minnesota must provide a primary for that party.  22 states provide that newly-qualifying ballot-qualified parties nominate by convention&#8230;Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, Wyoming.  Some of these states give the newly-qualifying party a choice.  If they turn in signature early they get a primary; otherwise they nominate by convention.  The National Civic Leaague, in 1951, recommended that newly-qualifying parties nominate by convention in order to save the government money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/02/09/minnesota-bill-for-earlier-primary-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-784850</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably, any court will take into account the reason that the primary was moved - in order to comply with federal law with regard to distribution of overseas ballots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably, any court will take into account the reason that the primary was moved &#8211; in order to comply with federal law with regard to distribution of overseas ballots.</p>
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