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	<title>Comments on: Mississippi Governor Signs Bill Setting a 5 p.m. Deadline for Presidential Elector Paperwork</title>
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		<title>By: Mississippi clarifies filing deadline &#171; Citizen Elector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mississippi clarifies filing deadline &#171; Citizen Elector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] glitches or oversights in existing laws, rather than through some proactive impulse. According toÂ Ballot Access News, that&#8217;s the case in Mississippi, where the governor has signed a bill to specify a closing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] glitches or oversights in existing laws, rather than through some proactive impulse. According toÂ Ballot Access News, that&#8217;s the case in Mississippi, where the governor has signed a bill to specify a closing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to recall that Price Daniel&#039;s son was either murdered, or he committed murder.  Wasn&#039;t Daniel a judge after he left the governorship?

Lloyd Bentsen also ran simultaneously for the Senate and VP in 1988.  So did Joe Lieberman in 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall that Price Daniel&#8217;s son was either murdered, or he committed murder.  Wasn&#8217;t Daniel a judge after he left the governorship?</p>
<p>Lloyd Bentsen also ran simultaneously for the Senate and VP in 1988.  So did Joe Lieberman in 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31 Price Daniel resigned as senator to become governor.  At the time, he had served 4 years of his senate term.  A curiosity is that he resigned the Senate on January 14, 1957 and was sworn in as governor on the 15th.  Blakely was appointed by the outgoing governor, Allan Shivers on the 15th.

Daniel was re-elected twice, but was defeated by John Connally in 1962.

#32
Tower, 30.9%
Blakely, 18.1%
Jim Wright, 16.2% (Congressman, later Speaker)
Will Wilson, 11.5% (AG, famed for raid on Galveston)
Maury Maverick, 9.9%
Henry B Gonzalez, 9.2% (TX senator, later congressman)
65 others, 4.2%

Supposedly Gonzalez and Maverick did not speak for 20 years after they split the liberal vote.

LBJ had run for both the Senate (Tower was the GOP candidate) and VP, so he was elected for a term ending in January 1967.  Once a senator is elected, they serve the remainder of the term.  An appointed senator serves until the successor is elected.  So the election in 1966 was Tower&#039;s first election to a full term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31 Price Daniel resigned as senator to become governor.  At the time, he had served 4 years of his senate term.  A curiosity is that he resigned the Senate on January 14, 1957 and was sworn in as governor on the 15th.  Blakely was appointed by the outgoing governor, Allan Shivers on the 15th.</p>
<p>Daniel was re-elected twice, but was defeated by John Connally in 1962.</p>
<p>#32<br />
Tower, 30.9%<br />
Blakely, 18.1%<br />
Jim Wright, 16.2% (Congressman, later Speaker)<br />
Will Wilson, 11.5% (AG, famed for raid on Galveston)<br />
Maury Maverick, 9.9%<br />
Henry B Gonzalez, 9.2% (TX senator, later congressman)<br />
65 others, 4.2%</p>
<p>Supposedly Gonzalez and Maverick did not speak for 20 years after they split the liberal vote.</p>
<p>LBJ had run for both the Senate (Tower was the GOP candidate) and VP, so he was elected for a term ending in January 1967.  Once a senator is elected, they serve the remainder of the term.  An appointed senator serves until the successor is elected.  So the election in 1966 was Tower&#8217;s first election to a full term.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Tower lead the first round in 1961?

Did Tower have to run again in &#039;62 for the remaining four years?  I recall that he beat AG Waggoner Carr, a conservative Dem, in 1966.  I got to witness a little of that campaign when I attended a convention in Dallas.

I heard Congressman Ed Foreman (R) speak when I made a 1964 trip to Dallas.  He lost that fall, when Lyndon Johnson pulverized Goldwater in the presidential race.  Foreman was later also elected to the US House from New Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Tower lead the first round in 1961?</p>
<p>Did Tower have to run again in &#8217;62 for the remaining four years?  I recall that he beat AG Waggoner Carr, a conservative Dem, in 1966.  I got to witness a little of that campaign when I attended a convention in Dallas.</p>
<p>I heard Congressman Ed Foreman (R) speak when I made a 1964 trip to Dallas.  He lost that fall, when Lyndon Johnson pulverized Goldwater in the presidential race.  Foreman was later also elected to the US House from New Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30:  What created the Senate vacancy in 1957?

I recall that Price Daniel was US senator before he was governor.

No governor would wait 500 days to have a special election for the US House, since people are always anxious to have representation for their district in Congress.

Jim Eastland was appointed to fill Mississippi&#039;s vacancy in the US Senate in 1941 but did not run in the special election later that year.  In the 1942 election for the full six-year term, Eastland beat the incumbent who had won the &#039;41 special election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30:  What created the Senate vacancy in 1957?</p>
<p>I recall that Price Daniel was US senator before he was governor.</p>
<p>No governor would wait 500 days to have a special election for the US House, since people are always anxious to have representation for their district in Congress.</p>
<p>Jim Eastland was appointed to fill Mississippi&#8217;s vacancy in the US Senate in 1941 but did not run in the special election later that year.  In the 1942 election for the full six-year term, Eastland beat the incumbent who had won the &#8217;41 special election.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/03/19/mississippi-governor-signs-bill-setting-a-5-p-m-deadline-for-presidential-elector-paperwork/comment-page-1/#comment-787728</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 William Blakely, who had been appointed to fill the vacancy.  He is notable for having been appointed to the senate twice.  The first time in 1957, he did not run in the special election, and Ralph Yarborough was elected with 38% of the vote.  After that, the majority requirement was added that would come into play in 1961, when Blakely did run in the primary.  Wright finished 3rd.

I realize it is up to the Mississippi legislature to set the timing of special elections (though Congress can override).  The Mississippi legislature has done a particularly bad job of it.

I made a mistake.  In years in which there is no general state election or congressional election (2009, 2013, etc.) a senate special election is held within 10+90 days.  It is vacancies for the House for which the governor may set a special election at least 60 days from the time of his proclamation.  500 days is at least 60 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 William Blakely, who had been appointed to fill the vacancy.  He is notable for having been appointed to the senate twice.  The first time in 1957, he did not run in the special election, and Ralph Yarborough was elected with 38% of the vote.  After that, the majority requirement was added that would come into play in 1961, when Blakely did run in the primary.  Wright finished 3rd.</p>
<p>I realize it is up to the Mississippi legislature to set the timing of special elections (though Congress can override).  The Mississippi legislature has done a particularly bad job of it.</p>
<p>I made a mistake.  In years in which there is no general state election or congressional election (2009, 2013, etc.) a senate special election is held within 10+90 days.  It is vacancies for the House for which the governor may set a special election at least 60 days from the time of his proclamation.  500 days is at least 60 days.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rankin</title>
		<link>http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/03/19/mississippi-governor-signs-bill-setting-a-5-p-m-deadline-for-presidential-elector-paperwork/comment-page-1/#comment-787683</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28:  It is, of course, up to the state legislature as to whether the governor appoints a successor or a special election is held.

If the senatorial vacancy occurs in an off year, the election is held no later than the next regular congressional elections.  Roger Wicker, e. g., was elected in November 2008 to serve the remaining four years on the Senate term.

BTW:  In the 1961 TX U. S. Senate election, who made the runoff against John Tower?  Was it Jim Wright?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28:  It is, of course, up to the state legislature as to whether the governor appoints a successor or a special election is held.</p>
<p>If the senatorial vacancy occurs in an off year, the election is held no later than the next regular congressional elections.  Roger Wicker, e. g., was elected in November 2008 to serve the remaining four years on the Senate term.</p>
<p>BTW:  In the 1961 TX U. S. Senate election, who made the runoff against John Tower?  Was it Jim Wright?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27 That is what I meant by Lott consulting both federal and state laws.

Why is it important to deny or defer voters their right to elect their senator?  That was the reason for the 17th Amendment in the first place.

If as senatorial vacancy occurs in the fallow year (2009, 2013, etc.) what is the rationale for permitting the governor to set the special election up to almost 6 years in the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27 That is what I meant by Lott consulting both federal and state laws.</p>
<p>Why is it important to deny or defer voters their right to elect their senator?  That was the reason for the 17th Amendment in the first place.</p>
<p>If as senatorial vacancy occurs in the fallow year (2009, 2013, etc.) what is the rationale for permitting the governor to set the special election up to almost 6 years in the future?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26:  Lott was facing a December deadline to resign in order to avoid a waiting period for becoming a lobbyist.

Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans required a runoff primary for Sen. Thad Cochran&#039;s seat.

It was really a confusing situation in the election(s) for Roger Wicker&#039;s old House seat.  All of the Democratic losers in the special election dropped out of the regular Democratic primary.

The difference is that the governor fills a Senate vacancy, which he cannot do vis-a-vis the U. S. House.  Thus it is more important to go ahead and have a special House election.

When Mississippi had its 1947 U. S. Senate election, special elections were nonpartisan, first-past-the-post events.  John Stennis was elected with 26.9%; he would have lost if there had been a runoff, since he was more moderate, and the second- and third-place finishers were both States Rights Democrats.

Soon after that, the state House speaker, a States Righter, had the law changed to require 50%-plus to win a special election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26:  Lott was facing a December deadline to resign in order to avoid a waiting period for becoming a lobbyist.</p>
<p>Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans required a runoff primary for Sen. Thad Cochran&#8217;s seat.</p>
<p>It was really a confusing situation in the election(s) for Roger Wicker&#8217;s old House seat.  All of the Democratic losers in the special election dropped out of the regular Democratic primary.</p>
<p>The difference is that the governor fills a Senate vacancy, which he cannot do vis-a-vis the U. S. House.  Thus it is more important to go ahead and have a special House election.</p>
<p>When Mississippi had its 1947 U. S. Senate election, special elections were nonpartisan, first-past-the-post events.  John Stennis was elected with 26.9%; he would have lost if there had been a runoff, since he was more moderate, and the second- and third-place finishers were both States Rights Democrats.</p>
<p>Soon after that, the state House speaker, a States Righter, had the law changed to require 50%-plus to win a special election.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25/18 And Barbour and Lott probably looked at the statutes (state and federal) and decided that it worked out best if Lott resigned in December rather than January, based on their interpretation.  And Hood looked at it a different way because he wanted a special election.  If their roles had been reversed they would have likely argued the opposite.

What is inane is deciding because the general election is 300+ days away to hold off until the general election, but then go ahead and hold a primary election and runoff for the other seat, plus hold a special election for Wicker&#039;s congressional seat.

Mississippi should switch its senate vacancy procedure to that used for congressional vacancies; except the governor should have to act within 10 days, and the special election should be in not less than 60 days, unless there is a general election with 120 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25/18 And Barbour and Lott probably looked at the statutes (state and federal) and decided that it worked out best if Lott resigned in December rather than January, based on their interpretation.  And Hood looked at it a different way because he wanted a special election.  If their roles had been reversed they would have likely argued the opposite.</p>
<p>What is inane is deciding because the general election is 300+ days away to hold off until the general election, but then go ahead and hold a primary election and runoff for the other seat, plus hold a special election for Wicker&#8217;s congressional seat.</p>
<p>Mississippi should switch its senate vacancy procedure to that used for congressional vacancies; except the governor should have to act within 10 days, and the special election should be in not less than 60 days, unless there is a general election with 120 days.</p>
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