Two bills are pending in the Georgia House of Representatives to require birth certificates for presidential candidates. The first, HB 37, was introduced on January 10 by Representative Bobby Franklin (R-Marietta). It requires political parties to submit “original documentation” for candidates who appear on that party’s presidential primary, and also for the party to submit “original documentation” for its nominee in November.
The second bill, HB 401, was introduced on February 28 by Representative Mark Hatfield (R-Waycross). It originally had 93 co-sponsors, but now it has 89, because four co-sponsors have removed their names. The Georgia House has 116 Republicans, 63 Democrats, and one independent. All of the co-sponsors are Republicans. HB 401 requires “A certified exact copy of the candidate’s first original long-form birth certificate that includes the candidate’s date, time, and place of birth; the name of the specific hospital or other location at which the candidate was born; the attending physician at the candidate’s birth; the names of the candidate’s birth parents and their respective birthplaces and places of residence; and signtures of the witness or witnesses in attendance at the candidate’s birth.” However, the bill says if such a document does not exist, the candidate shall attach other documents. The bill does not say who is responsible for furnishing the birth certificate, for purposes of the general election ballot. The parties are responsible for submitting such documents for purposes of the presidential primary ballot.
HB 401 also says that if any presidential elector votes for someone in the electoral college who has not submitted documentation of birth, the elector will be guilty of a “misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.” Thanks to Bill Van Allen for this news.
As usual for the unaware —
U.S.A. citizen fathers = U.S.A. citizen natural born kids
Foreign citizen/subject fathers = Foreign kids.
The physical place of birth is absolutely meaningless for determining nation-state status — inside any nation, on the high seas or in outer space.
See the *subject to the jurisdiction thereof* in 14th Amdt, Sec. 1 — about 1000 times. See the 1866 debates on such language in the 39th Congress.
But of course there are lots and lots of New Age ignorant MORONS regarding basic constitutional law stuff — including even some of the party hack robots on SCOTUS.
I am an American citizen by birth nd while in the USAF, I was stationed in Germany and while there my wife (American by birth)had a baby. My baby is American as I am. This bill is a waste of time and I would say intelligence, but I donot see any intelligence in it.
And how does this address jobs? Rather than continuing to waste time attempting to delegitimize our president with laws that probably are unenforceable, can we actually address the problems in our state?
It would be simpler if the presidential candidate were the person who filed for office (just like all other offices). His declaration of candidacy could include authorization from the vice presidential candidate, the presidential elector candidate, and the state political party.
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Marvin Breakfield,
You have given to little to determine the baby’s status.
You never stated where your wife was when she had the
baby or if you and your wife was married at the time of
the birth of the baby or the age of your wife at the time of birth or where were you married.
All of the above is need information.
Look at John Sidney McCain III. He was born out of wedlock at the Colon Hospital on Colon Island in the
Republic of Panama on August 29, 1936. At the time
of his birth his putative father, John Sidney McCain
II was a naval officer in the United States Navy. In
January, 1933 Roberta Wright (John Sidney McCain III
mother) went to a bar in Baja California and had a “sham
marriage”, like Ike and Tina Turner, with John Sidney
McCain II. The United States has a treaty with Mexico
that only recognizes marriages in Mexico that are purformed under Mexican Law. Panama has the same type of treaty with Mexico.
Mexico, Panama, and the United States are all sign the
Hague Convention of Nationality of 1930. Under that
treaty if the child is born out of wedlock Nationality
come from the mothers status only.
Under the laws of the Republic of Panama. if a putative
father wants to acknowledge a child born out of wedlock
prior to that child’s 21st birthday, he the child and
mother must go in person to a family court in Panama
City (only court with that authority to do an acknowledgement in the world for a birth in the Republic of Panama).
In December 1936, John Sidney McCain III, arrived in the United States without a lawful entry (about 3 month
old).
On August 4, 1937, Congress passed the Panama Collective Naturalization Act. By section 2 of that
act, for baby’s born out of wedlock to be cover in the
class under that section, with no lawful acknowledgement
prior to the 21st birthday of the father in the aforesaid court, the mother had to have been at or prior
to the childs birth a citizen of the United States and
employeed either by the United States Government or the
Panama Railroad Company or its successor.
Robert Wright was employed by neither, so John Sidney
McCain III is a citizen of the Republic of Panama and an
illegal alien in the United States and should be deported.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg,
Vice Chairman, American Independent Party